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#1 Offline MrUrrutia - Posted May 10 2017 - 2:53 PM

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Today while going out of the door on my way to work at 4 am I found that there was some sort of ant party at my porch...

 

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Location Northwest Florida (panama City)

Time 4:00-4:50 am

size it's on the 3 to 4 mm

Color black

Only alates where present at the area.

 

For the size I was thinking maybe Monomorium minimum, but as you can see on the second picture the size of head, mandibles and thorax looks more like Lasius Niger... What do you think?

 


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#2 Offline Aaron567 - Posted May 10 2017 - 3:07 PM

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Pheidole navigans. Very common in this area, and they just started flying a couple weeks ago. I have a colony of them   :)


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#3 Offline MrUrrutia - Posted May 10 2017 - 6:44 PM

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The other day i found this one, I'm guessing that it's a Camponotus one (+- 15mm!)... I'm stopping and inspecting every flying bug just in case it's a queen!!!

 

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#4 Offline Aaron567 - Posted May 10 2017 - 7:26 PM

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Camponotus floridanus major worker.


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#5 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted May 10 2017 - 8:09 PM

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Out of curiosity, what eliminates Pheidole moerens for the queen?


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#6 Offline MrUrrutia - Posted May 11 2017 - 5:22 AM

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Aaron on your experience around when I can expect to see some Camponotus queens around the area?

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#7 Offline Aaron567 - Posted May 11 2017 - 5:03 PM

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Out of curiosity, what eliminates Pheidole moerens for the queen?

 

Pheidole navigans and P. moerens are both very similar to each other, and apparently the records of Pheidole moerens found in the United States are considered to be P. navigans now. 

 

Here are some posts about it :)

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#8 Offline Aaron567 - Posted May 11 2017 - 5:05 PM

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Aaron on your experience around when I can expect to see some Camponotus queens around the area?

 

I found my Camponotus floridanus queen in February, but usually here the they will fly in June and July the most. They can also be found right now, keep an eye out for Camponotus castaneus. 



#9 Offline MrUrrutia - Posted May 11 2017 - 5:35 PM

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Today again while leaving there were a lot of queens and drones flying on my porch 5am) unfortunately i was really late to work so i have to pass on them (all small or even smaller than the girls i found the day before...) Maybe i should get to the porch around 4 am with the blacklight lamp and let it on for 20 30 minutes to see what I found (hopefully something beyond wolf spiders and damn gigantic cockroaches!).

I will love to get some Camponotus!

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#10 Offline AntswerMe - Posted May 13 2017 - 8:04 PM

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Very nice Pheidole find lad. They are interesting ants, and so small. Like Aaron said, keep an eye out for Camponotus species like C. castaneus and C. floridanus. These two species are the largest in the state!




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