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#1 Offline Barristan - Posted April 23 2017 - 10:53 AM

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According to German newspaper sueddeutsche 300 ants (or colonies) were stolen from German ant shop myants.de. A 19 year old employee tried to sell the ants via ebay. The whole thing leaked out after a request by shop owner's friend. After that the police made a house search and found the stolen colonies. The colonies are worth €3500.

 

According to German law buyers of stolen goods never become owners of these goods so they have to give the ant colonies back to the shop.


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#2 Offline Serafine - Posted April 23 2017 - 11:11 AM

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#3 Offline Subverted - Posted April 23 2017 - 11:38 AM

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I would love to know what the police thought about having to handle this case.

 

"He stole your what???"

"My ants, officer."

"Your aunt? How did he do that?"

"No my ants, sir."

"I think we have some spray for that somewhere here..."

"But I want them back!"

"You WANT ants?"


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#4 Offline gcsnelling - Posted April 23 2017 - 2:16 PM

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Ha ha.



#5 Offline Martialis - Posted April 23 2017 - 3:00 PM

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That's ironic. Having some 300 ants stolen that were previously taken away from their natural habitat. 


Edited by Martialis, April 24 2017 - 3:20 AM.

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#6 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted April 23 2017 - 3:19 PM

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Lmao. That's really funny! Thanks for sharing.
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#7 Offline Serafine - Posted April 23 2017 - 3:20 PM

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I don't think it was 300 colonies. Probably more like 15-20 colonies with 20-30 ants each.


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#8 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted April 23 2017 - 3:21 PM

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I don't think it was 300 colonies. Probably more like 15-20 colonies with 20-30 ants each.

I agree. The ants in MyAnts and other German Shops are super expensive.
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#9 Offline Formicarius - Posted April 23 2017 - 4:14 PM

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I don't think it was 300 colonies. Probably more like 15-20 colonies with 20-30 ants each.

 

If I'm thinking about the right guy here then I saw a lot of them on eBay Kleinanzeigen.

They were pretty much all exotic species founding colonies. Prices were pretty low compared to what these usually sell at, think this was most likely because the thief wanted to sell them ASAP.

There was even a small Atta spec. colony sold for 70€ I think? Pretty good price considering that you never see those below 100€+ on the german ant market.

 

 

 

I don't think it was 300 colonies. Probably more like 15-20 colonies with 20-30 ants each.

I agree. The ants in MyAnts and other German Shops are super expensive.

 

 

Well exotic ant collectors have to somehow pay for their travel expenses. Their profit margin probably isn't that high either.

Asian ants are usually cheaper though because those just get imported from asian wholesale traders most of the time.



#10 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted April 23 2017 - 4:47 PM

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I don't think it was 300 colonies. Probably more like 15-20 colonies with 20-30 ants each.


If I'm thinking about the right guy here then I saw a lot of them on eBay Kleinanzeigen.
They were pretty much all exotic species founding colonies. Prices were pretty low compared to what these usually sell at, think this was most likely because the thief wanted to sell them ASAP.
There was even a small Atta spec. colony sold for 70€ I think? Pretty good price considering that you never see those below 100€+ on the german ant market.

I don't think it was 300 colonies. Probably more like 15-20 colonies with 20-30 ants each.

I agree. The ants in MyAnts and other German Shops are super expensive.

Well exotic ant collectors have to somehow pay for their travel expenses. Their profit margin probably isn't that high either.
Asian ants are usually cheaper though because those just get imported from asian wholesale traders most of the time.
I never said they were over-priced... They are priced at a good rate. Asian ants are really cheap bought from sellers. Yinzhu Li, Lao J just to name two.
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(2) Parakeets
(2) Peppered Corydoras
(4) Neon Tetras
(1) Hermit Crab
(100-300) Mealworms
(1) Tetramorium sp. E
(1) Dormymyrmex bicolor
(1) Dormymyrmex insanus
(1) Solenopsis invicta
(1) Formica fusca
(1) Lasius neoniger
(1) Crematogaster cerasi
(1) Myrmecocystus testacus

#11 Offline Reacker - Posted April 23 2017 - 5:22 PM

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I don't think it was 300 colonies. Probably more like 15-20 colonies with 20-30 ants each.

What is your reasoning for saying this? What information from a credible source do you have to make such a statement? 

 

 

I never said they were over-priced... They are priced at a good rate. Asian ants are really cheap bought from sellers. Yinzhu Li, Lao J just to name two. 

 

Though of course you, being an under supervised American preteen with your parents credit card and a known history of illegally trading ants across US state boundaries, wouldn't know anything about that first hand. 


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#12 Offline Serafine - Posted April 24 2017 - 12:34 AM

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I don't think it was 300 colonies. Probably more like 15-20 colonies with 20-30 ants each.

What is your reasoning for saying this? What information from a credible source do you have to make such a statement?

I took a look at the myants website and the size of the colonies they usually sell.
Which you could have done as well if you hadn't chosen the lazy way of preemptive complaining.
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#13 Offline Deluga - Posted April 24 2017 - 1:28 AM

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Those are some really expensive ants, specially because the colony is so small.

But funny story anyways.

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#14 Offline Reacker - Posted April 24 2017 - 3:17 AM

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I don't think it was 300 colonies. Probably more like 15-20 colonies with 20-30 ants each.

What is your reasoning for saying this? What information from a credible source do you have to make such a statement?

 

I took a look at the myants website and the size of the colonies they usually sell.
Which you could have done as well if you hadn't chosen the lazy way of preemptive complaining.

 

What evidence do you have to support your assertion that there is any correlation between the number of colonies that they have on their site vs the number of colonies that they may have had to be stolen? I can think of several possible reasons why they might not post their entire inventory for sale at all times. 

 

To make it clear what I'm getting at, I'm saying that once again you're pulling shoddy logic and baseless assertions from the infinitely abundant wellspring of manure that is your [censored]. 



#15 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted April 24 2017 - 3:29 AM

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I can authoritatively say that there were a million colonies with four ants each. Time to conclude this thread.

Catch your queens local, people.


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