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#1 Offline XZero38 - Posted March 16 2017 - 4:57 PM

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1. Location of collection : Henderson, CO

2. Date of collection 3-16-17
3. Habitat of collection : Exposed dirt under weed mat in front yard
4. Length : ~2mm
5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture : Amber color w/ goldish sheen
6. Distinguishing characteristics : Short hairs on gastor, medium sized black eyes
8. Nest description : 4-5 mm size opening, loose dirt scattered around entrance.
 

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#2 Offline VoidElecent - Posted March 16 2017 - 5:12 PM

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Look like L. pillisartus or L. neoniger workers to me. 

 

I, frankly, find it disturbing that you have an entire mat made of weed.



#3 Offline XZero38 - Posted March 16 2017 - 5:14 PM

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Look like L. pillisartus or L. neoniger workers to me. 

 

I, frankly, find it disturbing that you have an entire mat made of weed.

that's not exactly what a weed mat is.


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#4 Offline LC3 - Posted March 16 2017 - 5:38 PM

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A Brachymyrmex depilis or a Nylanderia sp perhaps? I'm not very familiar with either the genre.



#5 Offline Canadian anter - Posted March 17 2017 - 4:07 AM

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I'm going with Brachymyrmex depilis or maybe pantagonicus becuase of the size


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#6 Offline sgheaton - Posted March 17 2017 - 4:48 AM

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I'm glad you took pictures and made a post.

Was flipping rocks in the yard yesterday, these are what I'm seeing. Their colony snaked down threw rocks so I couldn't get/see much. 

Edit:
Glad you're remaining safe with your mat. 


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#7 Offline XZero38 - Posted March 17 2017 - 5:39 AM

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Still not a positive ID on them yet. One species they look very similar to is the Rasberry Crazy Ant, Nylanderia Fulva. The only thing about that is they havent been seen this far north yet, so i don't think that's what they are. Would be really cool if there were as they have a way to neutralize fire ant venom.



#8 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted March 17 2017 - 5:53 AM

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How accurate are the measurements?


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#9 Offline XZero38 - Posted March 17 2017 - 5:57 AM

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How accurate are the measurements?

They are closer to 3mm. It was a quick measurement, i didn't have a ruler on hand but i had a "ruler" on my phone so i used that as best i could. Ill have to see if i can find my tape measure after work today and get a proper measurement



#10 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted March 17 2017 - 6:56 AM

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How accurate are the measurements?

They are closer to 3mm. It was a quick measurement, i didn't have a ruler on hand but i had a "ruler" on my phone so i used that as best i could. Ill have to see if i can find my tape measure after work today and get a proper measurement

 

 

Ah, ok. These are probably Lasius, then. Lasius pallitarsis or Lasius neoniger, I would think.

Lasius crypticus and L. sitiens are also found in that area.


Edited by Batspiderfish, March 17 2017 - 7:00 AM.

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Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#11 Offline sgheaton - Posted March 17 2017 - 7:23 AM

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Well... no matter what it would be a new one for you, ya? what's your total now, 6 different species of queens?


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#12 Offline XZero38 - Posted March 17 2017 - 7:32 AM

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Well... no matter what it would be a new one for you, ya? what's your total now, 6 different species of queens?

Right now i only have 4, would be 5 but Pogonomyrmex queen died. Yeah if i find a queen of the species in this thread then yeah it would be a new one.



#13 Offline sgheaton - Posted March 17 2017 - 7:46 AM

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I know you'll find Pogonomyrmex's this year without trying.
 

Edit - test. 
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pog.o

Pogonomyrmex
Pogonomyrmex.

Pogonomyrmex's

Ya' did it here even?!?!
 


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#14 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted March 17 2017 - 10:03 AM

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I agree with Lasius neoniger or pallitarsis.

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#15 Offline VoidElecent - Posted March 17 2017 - 1:56 PM

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Look like L. pillisartus or L. neoniger workers to me. 

 

I, frankly, find it disturbing that you have an entire mat made of weed.

that's not exactly what a weed mat is.

 

 

I know, I was joking haha.


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#16 Offline XZero38 - Posted March 17 2017 - 2:41 PM

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So getting a more accurate measure on the workers they are 3.5mm - 4mm. there were a couple slightly smaller ones, which is why the range


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#17 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted March 17 2017 - 2:42 PM

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Probably Lasius neoniger or Lasius pallitarsis then.






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