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#1 Offline SaintDrake - Posted March 1 2017 - 11:04 AM

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What happens to a colony when an ant queen dies if it has several workers already?

I have read a number of different answers and am curious which is correct. Although I assume it is species specific.

Does a worker take over as the new queen? Do the workers raise an egg or larvae that is left behind to be a new queen? Do the workers just work until they too die? Do they go off and try and find a new colony to join? What happens?

#2 Offline Loops117 - Posted March 1 2017 - 11:19 AM

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It's species specific. But for for most species, it usually means death of the colony.

Some species actually have fertile egg producing workers that are forbidden to lay while the queen is alive. After the death of the queen, some workers will actually fight to become the queen. I believe these are called gamergates. There's also been documents of queenless colonies continuing to live out it's life, but they have different characteristics after which.

 

Others will produce male alates, not sure how long that lasts.

 

Also, there's always the opportunity of a parasitic queen taking the reigns.


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#3 Offline sgheaton - Posted March 1 2017 - 1:23 PM

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Some species actually have fertile egg producing workers that are forbidden to lay while the queen is alive. 

 

What kind of lame existence of a life...

 

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#4 Offline Loops117 - Posted March 1 2017 - 1:37 PM

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Some species actually have fertile egg producing workers that are forbidden to lay while the queen is alive. 

 

What kind of lame existence of a life...

 

While you're able to be the almighty birth giver, nope! You getta move this dirt. Welcome to the colony!

 

It's insane. Each female has the ability and on occasion one will slip up and lay her own eggs. The colony immediately knows who the culprit is and will dismember her in the nest to set an example. Little savages.


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#5 Offline XZero38 - Posted March 1 2017 - 1:37 PM

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Some species actually have fertile egg producing workers that are forbidden to lay while the queen is alive. 

 

What kind of lame existence of a life...

 

While you're able to be the almighty birth giver, nope! You getta move this dirt. Welcome to the colony!

 

Of course! Havent you ever seen the movie Ants?



#6 Offline soulsynapse - Posted March 1 2017 - 3:18 PM

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It's insane. Each female has the ability and on occasion one will slip up and lay her own eggs. The colony immediately knows who the culprit is and will dismember her in the nest to set an example. Little savages.

 

 

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#7 Offline Leo - Posted March 1 2017 - 3:45 PM

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#8 Offline Antsinmycloset - Posted March 1 2017 - 4:31 PM

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I don't know if they "wander off", but doomed colonies can have their brood/workers, well, basically kidnapped. There's also been examples in captivity where a doomed colony, seemingly realizing their predicament, has accepted a replacement queen.



#9 Offline Serafine - Posted March 1 2017 - 4:52 PM

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It's insane. Each female has the ability and on occasion one will slip up and lay her own eggs. The colony immediately knows who the culprit is and will dismember her in the nest to set an example. Little savages.


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#10 Offline LC3 - Posted March 1 2017 - 6:52 PM

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Some species actually have fertile egg producing workers that are forbidden to lay while the queen is alive. 

 

What kind of lame existence of a life...

 

While you're able to be the almighty birth giver, nope! You getta move this dirt. Welcome to the colony!

 

It's insane. Each female has the ability and on occasion one will slip up and lay her own eggs. The colony immediately knows who the culprit is and will dismember her in the nest to set an example. Little savages.

 

I think there are hefty number species of ants  where the workers aren't capable of laying eggs, their ovaries just never develop enough to begin with. I remember Pogonomyrmex workers weren't capable of laying eggs while Veromessor workers can.


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#11 Offline Works4TheGood - Posted March 2 2017 - 5:02 PM

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Workers are just robots that the queen creates to bring her resources. In most cases, they are nothing more than the legs that twitch after you've squashed the mosquito.

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#12 Offline BMM - Posted March 2 2017 - 8:32 PM

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I've got about 20 Tapinoma sessile workers that are queenless but still raising what brood they had when I caught them. I've had them for close to half a year now.






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