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#1 Offline MichiganAnts - Posted February 22 2017 - 11:55 AM

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ZbUTHpW.jpgshe was caught over a week ago and she's been like this the entire time. she's currently in a very moist test tube. I've been told she should be at least twitching. 


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#2 Offline Bracchymyrmex - Posted February 22 2017 - 11:58 AM

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Make a new test tube setup, dump her in it and put her somewhere warm, dry, and dark. If mold begins to grow on her she's dead. If nothing happens after 3-4 days you will simply have to wait and see. I would say you should consider her dead after four weeks, even if no mold has formed. 



#3 Offline MichiganAnts - Posted February 22 2017 - 11:59 AM

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she was just put into this tube last night. but you think the tube should be dry? not moist?


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#4 Offline dermy - Posted February 22 2017 - 11:59 AM

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Even if she was just in hibernation, a week [assuming you weren't putting her in too cold of conditions] she wouldn't be that "far into hibernation". My guess is that if she isn't even twitching that she is probably dead :| . Have you at least tried opening the test-tube and seeing if she does anything, at least from my Experience anything like that would jolt a fully aware queen into panic mode [at least you'd know she was alive]



#5 Offline MichiganAnts - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:03 PM

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she was a wild queen. her colony is currently in a formicarium. she hasnt moved at all since capture. she's been in warmth for over a week


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#6 Offline dermy - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:05 PM

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she was a wild queen. her colony is currently in a formicarium. she hasnt moved at all since capture. she's been in warmth for over a week

Quick question, why is she not in with the rest of her colony? Queens from larger colonies don't do well on their own without their worker force. They begin to rely heavily on them once the founding stage is over.


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#7 Offline Bracchymyrmex - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:06 PM

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You should not have removed her from her colony. The test tube should have had a couple eggs and workers in it; she may have grown to rely on her workers and without their assistance she died. The test tube should not be overly moist that it is practically wet but it should still have a moderately-high humidity level.



#8 Offline MichiganAnts - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:06 PM

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she was a wild queen. her colony is currently in a formicarium. she hasnt moved at all since capture. she's been in warmth for over a week

Quick question, why is she not in with the rest of her colony? Queens from larger colonies don't do well on their own without their worker force. They begin to rely heavily on them once the founding stage is over.

 

her colnoy is well and in a formicarium nest to her. she's in a warm moist tube to try wake her


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#9 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:06 PM

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I find that Camponotus are dead if their antenna or leg falls off after a light touch.

#10 Offline Bracchymyrmex - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:07 PM

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she was a wild queen. her colony is currently in a formicarium. she hasnt moved at all since capture. she's been in warmth for over a week

Quick question, why is she not in with the rest of her colony? Queens from larger colonies don't do well on their own without their worker force. They begin to rely heavily on them once the founding stage is over.

 

Exactly.


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#11 Offline MichiganAnts - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:08 PM

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You should not have removed her from her colony. The test tube should have had a couple eggs and workers in it; she may have grown to rely on her workers and without their assistance she died. The test tube should not be overly moist that it is practically wet but it should still have a moderately-high humidity level.

oh its not wet.. just humid. i could have her back with the colony.  


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#12 Offline Bracchymyrmex - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:10 PM

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Yes, I would recommend that. Unfortunately it may be too late.  :(



#13 Offline MichiganAnts - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:11 PM

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Yes, I would recommend that. Unfortunately it may be too late.  :(

she was only taken out last night


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#14 Offline Bracchymyrmex - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:13 PM

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Yes, I would recommend that. Unfortunately it may be too late.  :(

she was only taken out last night

 

 Was there a specific reason that made you take her out?



#15 Offline MichiganAnts - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:15 PM

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Yes, I would recommend that. Unfortunately it may be too late.  :(

she was only taken out last night

 

 Was there a specific reason that made you take her out?

 

no signs of life in her since i caught them. always on her back and being drug around by workers. not even twitching


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#16 Offline Serafine - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:43 PM

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Camponotus queens can take over two weeks to wake up. The only way to be sure is if either mold grows on her or body parts start to fall off.


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We should respect all forms of consciousness. The body is just a vessel, a mere hull.

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#17 Offline MichiganAnts - Posted February 22 2017 - 12:44 PM

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she's back with her colony. even though i think she's dead.. ill wait until i see body parts fall off


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#18 Offline sgheaton - Posted February 22 2017 - 1:11 PM

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she's back with her colony. even though i think she's dead.. ill wait until i see body parts fall off

It's never really clicked how morbid the hobby of anting actually can be until this..


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#19 Offline Leo - Posted February 22 2017 - 3:57 PM

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my first queen was a camponotus, she spasmed and i found her dead the next morning



#20 Offline dermy - Posted February 22 2017 - 10:13 PM

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she's back with her colony. even though i think she's dead.. ill wait until i see body parts fall off

It's never really clicked how morbid the hobby of anting actually can be until this..

 

There are far more failures than successes in this Hobby, unless you get really lucky......


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