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#1 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted January 6 2017 - 8:59 PM

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Is the biggest "worker" a queen?
Location found - New Zealand north island inside a half rotten log.
Length - 4-5 mm
When - today 7/1/17.
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Edited by DylanTheAntKeeper, January 6 2017 - 9:01 PM.

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#2 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted January 6 2017 - 9:27 PM

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Yep. I think that those ants are hypoponera. Let's wait till BatSpiderFish gets here for an ID though.


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#3 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted January 6 2017 - 9:35 PM

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Thanks! Do you think the bigger one is a queen or like a media worker or something?

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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis


#4 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted January 6 2017 - 9:38 PM

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It's a queen. Maybe better pics would ensure that, though. If the thorax looks large, you've got a gyne on your hands.


Hawaiiant (Ben)

Keeper of
Miniature Labradoodle
Baby Wolf Spider
Mud Dauber wasp larvae
Ochetellus Glaber
Solenopsis Geminata
Brachymyrmex Obscurior
Cardiocondyla Emeryi
Tetramorium Bicarinatum
Plagiolepis Alluaudi
Anoplolepis Gracilipes
Technomyrmex Difficilis
Pheidole Megacephala
Aholehole fish
Cowrie snail
Sea Fan Worm
100+ sea squirts
Tree seedlings
Ghost Crab
Day Gecko
Small Fat Centipede
Endemic Lacewing larva
Vernal Pool shrimps

#5 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted January 6 2017 - 9:40 PM

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Sweeet! I could go out and get some more workers for her should I? Also what's a gyne lol.

Edited by DylanTheAntKeeper, January 6 2017 - 9:42 PM.

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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis


#6 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted January 6 2017 - 9:58 PM

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The measurements are large for Hypoponera, but I'm inclined to agree.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#7 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted January 6 2017 - 10:18 PM

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Ok so do you think it's a queen too? The measurements may be incorrect.

Edited by DylanTheAntKeeper, January 6 2017 - 10:20 PM.

My Youtube Channel
https://m.youtube.co...R--GtDfJdaJjWpQ

Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis


#8 Offline Lemon07 - Posted January 7 2017 - 2:36 AM

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Does she have wing scars ? 


Formicarium Colonies:

Aphaenogaster longiceps

 

Test Tube Colonies:

Camponotus aeneopilosus

Iridomyrmex sp

Opisthopsis rufithorax


#9 Offline Canadian anter - Posted January 7 2017 - 6:18 AM

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Ill say Hypoponera
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#10 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted January 7 2017 - 9:49 AM

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I can't really notice wing scars that well as she is quite small, although I think I did see wing scars I'm not sure.

My Youtube Channel
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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis


#11 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted January 7 2017 - 6:32 PM

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I checked on them today and I can't see any eggs but I'm still hoping she's a queen. I went out and captured 5 more workers from the same colony ( I couldent find any brood) and put them together.

My Youtube Channel
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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis


#12 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted January 7 2017 - 7:21 PM

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I've also looked on this forum on posts from others who have had them and they said they are difficult to raise and might need substrate in the test tube. Should I put substrate in? And does anyone have any tips on raising them?

My Youtube Channel
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Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis


#13 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted January 8 2017 - 9:43 AM

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Hypoponera need substrate.

 

Also, for some small ants I've noticed that they don't put their brood down but the just carry them. At least that's what I've noticed with plagiolepis. After a bit, check the workers' mouths for eggs.


Hawaiiant (Ben)

Keeper of
Miniature Labradoodle
Baby Wolf Spider
Mud Dauber wasp larvae
Ochetellus Glaber
Solenopsis Geminata
Brachymyrmex Obscurior
Cardiocondyla Emeryi
Tetramorium Bicarinatum
Plagiolepis Alluaudi
Anoplolepis Gracilipes
Technomyrmex Difficilis
Pheidole Megacephala
Aholehole fish
Cowrie snail
Sea Fan Worm
100+ sea squirts
Tree seedlings
Ghost Crab
Day Gecko
Small Fat Centipede
Endemic Lacewing larva
Vernal Pool shrimps

#14 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted January 8 2017 - 10:28 AM

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Ok thanks so should I just put a bit of dirt mixed with sand in? Does it have to be wet?

My Youtube Channel
https://m.youtube.co...R--GtDfJdaJjWpQ

Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis


#15 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted January 8 2017 - 10:35 AM

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Yes. 


Hawaiiant (Ben)

Keeper of
Miniature Labradoodle
Baby Wolf Spider
Mud Dauber wasp larvae
Ochetellus Glaber
Solenopsis Geminata
Brachymyrmex Obscurior
Cardiocondyla Emeryi
Tetramorium Bicarinatum
Plagiolepis Alluaudi
Anoplolepis Gracilipes
Technomyrmex Difficilis
Pheidole Megacephala
Aholehole fish
Cowrie snail
Sea Fan Worm
100+ sea squirts
Tree seedlings
Ghost Crab
Day Gecko
Small Fat Centipede
Endemic Lacewing larva
Vernal Pool shrimps

#16 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted January 8 2017 - 10:43 AM

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Ok thanks

My Youtube Channel
https://m.youtube.co...R--GtDfJdaJjWpQ

Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis


#17 Offline benjiwuf - Posted January 8 2017 - 10:49 AM

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I would highly suggest against putting in wet dirt and/or sand. Sterilise it also prior to addition or you will be risking mite infections or other problems with mold etc.

Edit: If you feel like it is truly necessary based on research provided, then add a small layer to the bottom of the test tube. Try to avoid contact with the cotton as it may leech out the water and flood the test tube.

Edited by benjiwuf, January 8 2017 - 10:54 AM.


#18 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted January 8 2017 - 10:57 AM

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Ok thanks although I doubt I will put substrate in as I'm probobolly not allowed to boil and bake the dirt to sterilize it.

My Youtube Channel
https://m.youtube.co...R--GtDfJdaJjWpQ

Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis


#19 Offline Annexis - Posted January 8 2017 - 11:00 AM

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instead of sand or dirt you can always use some substrate at the petstore, those are always sterile 



#20 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted January 8 2017 - 11:14 AM

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I have some very fine sand I brought at a pet shop. Will that work? Or would it be to fine.

My Youtube Channel
https://m.youtube.co...R--GtDfJdaJjWpQ

Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis





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