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Two types of queens near DC (Maryland)


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#1 Offline Chandlerk - Posted September 21 2016 - 11:22 AM

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First timer here, I am hoping someone can help identify these two queens.

 

Queen 1:

1. Location of collection: Maryland (Near DC)
2. Date of collection: 9/20
3. Habitat of collection: edges of my yard

4. Length (from head to gaster): 11-12 mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture:  can't tell
6. Distinguishing characteristics: The gaster is a bit transparent.

7. Distinguishing behavior: none
8. Nest description: very small mounds

 

Pictures:

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Probably a Lasius of some sort.

 

Queen 2:

1. Location of collection: Maryland (Near DC)

2. Date of collection: 9/20
3. Habitat of collection: In my driveway and on the asphalt.

4. Length (from head to gaster): 5.5mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture:  can't tell -- light coloration
6. Distinguishing characteristics: The gaster is a bit transparent and bulging.

7. Distinguishing behavior: seems to love water
8. Nest description: didn't see a nest

 

Pictures:

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So far I have gotten  Solenopsis, Tetramorium, Brachymymex, Monomorium, Tapinoma

 

Thanks for the help! :D  :D  :D


Edited by dspdrew, September 21 2016 - 1:37 PM.
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#2 Offline Chandlerk - Posted September 21 2016 - 1:06 PM

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update for Queen 2:

 

 

The length is looking more like 4-5mm

I had two die overnight.

 

New pictures

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#3 Offline Canadian anter - Posted September 21 2016 - 1:13 PM

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Queen 1 LoOKs like lasius alienus and queen 2 is brachymyrmex depilis
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#4 Offline Kevin - Posted September 21 2016 - 1:15 PM

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Queen 2 could be solonopsis molesta, take that with a grain of salt.. usually don't ID.

EDIT: I would trust Canadian anter's better... looks more like it.


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#5 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted September 21 2016 - 3:00 PM

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Lasius neoniger (most likely) and Brachymyrmex depilis, Although I can only see one photograph of each.


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#6 Offline Chandlerk - Posted September 21 2016 - 3:15 PM

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Lasius neoniger (most likely) and Brachymyrmex depilis, Although I can only see one photograph of each.


You can only access one of each or they are too blurry?

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#7 Offline Canadian anter - Posted September 21 2016 - 6:08 PM

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Lasius neoniger (most likely) and Brachymyrmex depilis, Although I can only see one photograph of each.

How do you distinguish neoniger and aliens?
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#8 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted September 21 2016 - 6:14 PM

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Lasius neoniger (most likely) and Brachymyrmex depilis, Although I can only see one photograph of each.

How do you distinguish neoniger and aliens?

 

 

I didn't, in this case. Lasius alienus stops flying by August. California might get the oddball in the fall, but not the East Coast.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

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#9 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted September 21 2016 - 8:13 PM

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Lasius neoniger (most likely) and Brachymyrmex depilis, Although I can only see one photograph of each.

How do you distinguish neoniger and aliens?

 

 

Oh, but to answer your question, Lasius alienus is the only Eastern North American niger-group Lasius without erect hairs on the scapes of their antennae.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

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#10 Offline Chandlerk - Posted October 2 2016 - 9:16 PM

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UPDATE: Here is a much clearer picture of the L. neoniger.

 



#11 Offline Chandlerk - Posted October 2 2016 - 9:21 PM

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and B. depilis (?)



#12 Offline Chandlerk - Posted October 3 2016 - 9:08 AM

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Update: I noticed that the [possible] B.depilis colony is polymorphic, I saw a couple of majors.

Is B. depilis polymorphic?

#13 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted October 3 2016 - 9:13 AM

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Update: I noticed that the [possible] B.depilis colony is polymorphic, I saw a couple of majors.

Is B. depilis polymorphic?

 

Brachymyrmex depilis, the queens that you have, are not polymorphic.

 

I can't see anything new about the Lasius queen.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#14 Offline Chandlerk - Posted October 3 2016 - 9:45 AM

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Update: I noticed that the [possible] B.depilis colony is polymorphic, I saw a couple of majors.

Is B. depilis polymorphic?


Brachymyrmex depilis, the queens that you have, are not polymorphic.

I can't see anything new about the Lasius queen.

I just grabbed some workers and a major.
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#15 Offline Chandlerk - Posted October 3 2016 - 11:11 AM

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Update: I noticed that the [possible] B.depilis colony is polymorphic, I saw a couple of majors.

Is B. depilis polymorphic?


Brachymyrmex depilis, the queens that you have, are not polymorphic.

I can't see anything new about the Lasius queen.

I just grabbed some workers and a major.
Pictures shortly

 

 

Here are a few pictures i got of some workers and a major. 

 

 

The rest are in my gallery

 



#16 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted October 3 2016 - 12:01 PM

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The workers are Pheidole. The queens are still Brachymyrmex.


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Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#17 Offline Chandlerk - Posted October 3 2016 - 12:05 PM

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The workers are Pheidole. The queens are still Brachymyrmex.

How deep/ wide do Pheidole make their nests/tunnels?

 

I am contemplating digging them up.



#18 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted October 3 2016 - 1:46 PM

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The workers are Pheidole. The queens are still Brachymyrmex.

How deep/ wide do Pheidole make their nests/tunnels?

 

I am contemplating digging them up.

 

 

I don't know. :P

 

Also, don't dig them up; just wait for their flight in July. :)

 

BTW, somebody recently found Aphaenogaster tennesseensis in DC.


Edited by Batspiderfish, October 3 2016 - 1:47 PM.

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If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#19 Offline Chandlerk - Posted October 3 2016 - 1:48 PM

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will do.

unfortunately i am not sure i will be here in July  :/






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