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[Shareallicu]

1. Drowning in my cats water outside my door.  Lynnwood, Washington. USA.

2. 9-16-16  Date of collection
3. Cat water… lol I don’t know

4. 7mm Length
5. Orangeish-brown Coloration.  Shiny.
6. one petiole, wings, 11 antennal segments.
7. Flexible hehe.  She was just trying to dry herself off.   I hope she survives the almost drowning event!

 

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n23/shareallicu/Side%20tummy.jpg

 

Thanks a LOT!!

Here are some closeups on her head.  I hope these are clear enough to see her enough to identify.

 

Edited by Shareallicu, September 17 2016 - 8:12 AM.

[Canadian anter]

It looks like lasius neoniger or pallitarsis.A shot of mandibles would be needed though

[Batspiderfish]

Lasius sp. Would it be possible to get pictures of the antennal scapes and the teeth from the front of the mandibles? Do you know if any noise reduction has been applied to the photo, which might have reduced the detail? The number of teeth on the mandibles and their location would tell Lasius neoniger (7) and Lasius pallitarsis (6, with #7 moved far up the mandibles) apart. If there are no standing hairs on the scapes, then Lasius crypticus.

[Shareallicu]

Lasius sp. Would it be possible to get pictures of the antennal scapes and the teeth from the front of the mandibles? Do you know if any noise reduction has been applied to the photo, which might have reduced the detail? The number of teeth on the mandibles and their location would tell Lasius neoniger (7) and Lasius pallitarsis (6, with #7 moved far up the mandibles) apart. If there are no standing hairs on the scapes, then Lasius crypticus.

Okay cool ty.  I will try to get better pictures.  I don't think there is a filter on, but I will mess around with it... it's just a phone camera hehe

[Shareallicu]

 

Lasius sp. Would it be possible to get pictures of the antennal scapes and the teeth from the front of the mandibles? Do you know if any noise reduction has been applied to the photo, which might have reduced the detail? The number of teeth on the mandibles and their location would tell Lasius neoniger (7) and Lasius pallitarsis (6, with #7 moved far up the mandibles) apart. If there are no standing hairs on the scapes, then Lasius crypticus.

Okay cool ty.  I will try to get better pictures.  I don't think there is a filter on, but I will mess around with it... it's just a phone camera hehe

 

So it's probably Lasius crypticus right?

[Batspiderfish]

 

 

Lasius sp. Would it be possible to get pictures of the antennal scapes and the teeth from the front of the mandibles? Do you know if any noise reduction has been applied to the photo, which might have reduced the detail? The number of teeth on the mandibles and their location would tell Lasius neoniger (7) and Lasius pallitarsis (6, with #7 moved far up the mandibles) apart. If there are no standing hairs on the scapes, then Lasius crypticus.

Okay cool ty.  I will try to get better pictures.  I don't think there is a filter on, but I will mess around with it... it's just a phone camera hehe

 

So it's probably Lasius crypticus right?

 

 

I'm inclined to say so. Lasius can be tricky, but I can't see any erect hairs on the scapes, try as I might. She is definitely not Lasius neoniger, at least. NIce work! It's often hard enough to capture Lasius features with an SLR.

Edited by Batspiderfish, September 17 2016 - 9:54 PM.

[Shareallicu]

 

 

 

Lasius sp. Would it be possible to get pictures of the antennal scapes and the teeth from the front of the mandibles? Do you know if any noise reduction has been applied to the photo, which might have reduced the detail? The number of teeth on the mandibles and their location would tell Lasius neoniger (7) and Lasius pallitarsis (6, with #7 moved far up the mandibles) apart. If there are no standing hairs on the scapes, then Lasius crypticus.

Okay cool ty.  I will try to get better pictures.  I don't think there is a filter on, but I will mess around with it... it's just a phone camera hehe

 

So it's probably Lasius crypticus right?

 

 

I'm inclined to say so. Lasius can be tricky, but I can't see any erect hairs on the scapes, try as I might. She is definitely not Lasius neoniger, at least. NIce work! It's often hard enough to capture Lasius features with an SLR.

 

Cool thanks a lot!  She actually had her wings stuck to the wet cotton, so I figured that was a good time to get a picture     She seems to be the Jerry Lewis of ants... always getting stuck in the cotton, or under the piece of wood I put in with her.. I am wondering if she even managed to mate before plunging into the cat water bowl hehe!   

[James C. Trager]

This looks like Lasius pallitarsis to me, based on the array of the mandibular teeth, size, and relative wing length, but as has been said before, Lasius is tricky. In addition, I don't think L. crypticus is likely from your coastal location.
The main issue with your photographs is the lighting. Bright, full spectrum, but diffuse (as in a high, thin overcast or thin fog) yields the best images with the most natural colors. 

[Shareallicu]

This looks like Lasius pallitarsis to me, based on the array of the mandibular teeth, size, and relative wing length, but as has been said before, Lasius is tricky. In addition, I don't think L. crypticus is likely from your coastal location.
The main issue with your photographs is the lighting. Bright, full spectrum, but diffuse (as in a high, thin overcast or thin fog) yields the best images with the most natural colors. 

Okay thanks!  I took the pictures inside so maybe that is why they are so dark