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Colonies slowing down/Hinbernation


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#1 Offline AntsMAN - Posted August 29 2016 - 5:29 AM

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I have noticed in my Camponotus colonies they have slowed growth down to a crawl and don't seem to be as active. Same for my Formica Colonies. I assume they will start hibernation next month sometime.

Time to order my wine cooler, and get ready.

 

When hibernation the only thing to worry about is hydration and temperature correct? Test tube colonies are fine as they are? I don't want a repeat of last year. I'm going to try for a 4 month hibernation, hopefully end of September to first of February.

The plan is to slowly bring them down to 8-10℃, over the period of a few weeks.

Far as brood just the larvae can survive hibernation correct?

 

Anything special I need to know to have a successful hibernation?


Edited by AntsMAN, August 29 2016 - 6:31 AM.

Current queens/colonies

Camponotus novaeboracensis x2

Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2

Camponotus herculeanus x1

Formica sp. x1

Lasius americanus x1  (Lasius alienus)

Lasius neoniger x1

Crematogastor cerasi x1

Myrmica sp. x1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#2 Offline XZero38 - Posted August 29 2016 - 5:50 AM

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won't that freeze them if you go that low?



#3 Offline AntsMAN - Posted August 29 2016 - 6:01 AM

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won't that freeze them if you go that low?

Sorry meant to say ℃


Current queens/colonies

Camponotus novaeboracensis x2

Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2

Camponotus herculeanus x1

Formica sp. x1

Lasius americanus x1  (Lasius alienus)

Lasius neoniger x1

Crematogastor cerasi x1

Myrmica sp. x1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#4 Offline Loops117 - Posted August 29 2016 - 6:05 AM

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I've noticed my Lasius alienus and Formica subsericea have slowed down to a very slow crawl. My Lasius almost stopped eating entirly. Time for the long winter haul.



#5 Offline noebl1 - Posted August 29 2016 - 6:24 AM

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Hoping my Tetramorium start slowing down...  ~12 of the first workers eclosed in each of the tubes this mos.  About 8-12 new pupae ready to go in each one as well. Still taking protein like pigs too so may be starting to prep (I hope).  My Temnothorax have slowed down laying, but still reasonably active feeding.

 

My basement holds a pretty steady 7-10C all winter, so hoping to hibernate them there.  Once I shut off the dehumidifier for the season, the temp in the basement will slowly drop starting in Oct.  Though if we don't stop this 80s/90s here in MA, not so sure now.  :rolleyes:

 

What do people do with P. Imparis?  Do they keep them room temp year round or cool them during winter?



#6 Offline sgheaton - Posted August 29 2016 - 7:03 AM

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I haven't monitored my basement much more than, "shee baby its cold down here, " during winter time. Was thinking if I didn't want to use my spare refrigerator that I might use the natural coolness of Colorado basementness. 


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#7 Offline Loops117 - Posted August 29 2016 - 7:38 AM

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If i could trust it, i would build a box in my crawl space for them. I just fear the temps would change too much. I have too many colonies and tubes for a small fridge/wine cooler. I'm gonna have to figure something out.



#8 Offline noebl1 - Posted August 29 2016 - 7:44 AM

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I'm a geek, so mine is computer monitored. I used to use 1-wire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-Wire) temp/humidity sensors (got them in basement, attic, garage, etc.)  However can now use Wifi NodeMCU + DHT22 for ~$20 and have a cheap web enabled device to monitor temp/humidity.



#9 Offline AntsMAN - Posted August 30 2016 - 4:50 AM

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The only other thing is Hydrating the nest during hibernation, I assume the cooler temp will keep the humidity in the nest for a lot longer?


Current queens/colonies

Camponotus novaeboracensis x2

Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2

Camponotus herculeanus x1

Formica sp. x1

Lasius americanus x1  (Lasius alienus)

Lasius neoniger x1

Crematogastor cerasi x1

Myrmica sp. x1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#10 Offline YawningGull - Posted August 30 2016 - 10:58 AM

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I'm a geek, so mine is computer monitored. I used to use 1-wire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1-Wire) temp/humidity sensors (got them in basement, attic, garage, etc.)  However can now use Wifi NodeMCU + DHT22 for ~$20 and have a cheap web enabled device to monitor temp/humidity.

I'm thinking of using a micro-controller to monitor the conditions in my colonies. Like turning on and off a heat cable or something, and graph the conditions over time.


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#11 Offline AntsMAN - Posted August 31 2016 - 5:21 AM

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Most of my colonies only have larvae now and they aren't growing, or eating very much anymore.

And they are staying huddled up together. The Camponotus seem to be slowing down the most.


Current queens/colonies

Camponotus novaeboracensis x2

Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2

Camponotus herculeanus x1

Formica sp. x1

Lasius americanus x1  (Lasius alienus)

Lasius neoniger x1

Crematogastor cerasi x1

Myrmica sp. x1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#12 Offline sgheaton - Posted August 31 2016 - 5:29 AM

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........Everyones talking about hibernation and here I am still constructing my dang formicarium


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#13 Offline AntsMAN - Posted August 31 2016 - 5:38 AM

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You still have plenty of time. A few of my colonies didn't get a proper hibernation last year so they are getting ready a little early this year.


Current queens/colonies

Camponotus novaeboracensis x2

Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2

Camponotus herculeanus x1

Formica sp. x1

Lasius americanus x1  (Lasius alienus)

Lasius neoniger x1

Crematogastor cerasi x1

Myrmica sp. x1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#14 Offline noebl1 - Posted August 31 2016 - 6:06 AM

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@sgheaton  Same here too, hence my comment above about my Tetramorium ;)  I'm hoping to get some smaller formicariums similar to the AC test tube portals printed out to get them going a bit longer until I can print out something larger for Spring.



#15 Offline Mdrogun - Posted August 31 2016 - 3:54 PM

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What do people do with P. Imparis?  Do they keep them room temp year round or cool them during winter?

With my Prenolepis imparis I've kept them above 78 or so all summer. They've been hibernating most of the summer and they should be resuming activity soon. In the winter I plan to keep them around 65 and see what happens. I caught my queen at the end of winter so I'm not entirely sure what I should do for temps but by the summer time next year I'll have it figured out.


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Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Pheidole pilifera

Forelius sp. (Monogynous, bicolored) "Midwestern Forelius"
Crematogaster cerasi

Pheidole bicarinata

Aphaenogaster rudis

Camponotus chromaiodes

Formica sp. (microgena species)

Nylanderia cf. arenivega


#16 Offline noebl1 - Posted August 31 2016 - 4:12 PM

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@mdrogun: Thanks! I've left her alone for the last couple weeks in a box as noticed with all the movement she ate her small egg clutch I think. Super nervous to check on her. Hopefully still alive...




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