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#21 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted October 15 2024 - 11:39 AM

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Do cockerelli also eat seeds, or is that just a Pogonomyrmex thing?

Yes, Pogonomyrmex, Novomessor, and Veromessor are all considered Harvester Ants.


Edited by RushmoreAnts, October 15 2024 - 11:39 AM.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#22 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted October 15 2024 - 11:42 AM

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One of the reasons I would get Camponotus is because they have huge majors, but is there a better species to get?


 

And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

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Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 


#23 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted October 15 2024 - 11:56 AM

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I heard vicinus can get to 1/2 an inch, so I don't really care a bout how active they are. but what is their care?


 

And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

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Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 


#24 Offline bmb1bee - Posted October 15 2024 - 2:08 PM

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Camponotus vicinus care is pretty easy. Depending on where they come from, they might need fridge hibernation when winter comes (high elevation vicinus). Other than that, they won't need much special care. When keeping large Camponotus species, keep in mind that they grow pretty slowly and often take over a year to get majors. If I were you, I'd rather get Camponotus semitestaceus or sansabeanus, as they have much nicer colors in my opinion. If you're going for size, Camponotus us-ca02 is the largest Camponotus you can get here. 


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#25 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted October 15 2024 - 2:53 PM

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Camponotus vicinus care is pretty easy. Depending on where they come from, they might need fridge hibernation when winter comes (high elevation vicinus). Other than that, they won't need much special care. When keeping large Camponotus species, keep in mind that they grow pretty slowly and often take over a year to get majors. If I were you, I'd rather get Camponotus semitestaceus or sansabeanus, as they have much nicer colors in my opinion. If you're going for size, Camponotus us-ca02 is the largest Camponotus you can get here. 

I would get them, but I heard that a mature colony can get hard to contain because of their colonies size.


 

And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

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Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 


#26 Offline bmb1bee - Posted October 15 2024 - 3:14 PM

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Are you referring to Camponotus vicinus or us-ca02?

Edited by bmb1bee, October 15 2024 - 3:15 PM.

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#27 Offline AntsTx - Posted October 15 2024 - 3:15 PM

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They will accept seeds. 

 

Edit: My page didn't load and I didn't see all the replies


Edited by AntsTx, October 15 2024 - 3:15 PM.

Currently Keeping:

Camponotus texanus x2                                             Pheidole obtusospinosa - 2 workers

Camponotus vicinus - 15-20 workers                         Solenopsis xyloni x7 - Batch of eggs

Camponotus pennsylvanicus - 95-100 workers         Pheidole lamia - 4 workers                                                                                                                                 

Dorymyrmex bureni - 3 workers

Formica spp. - 5 workers

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis x2

Neoponera villosa x15

Crematogaster lineolata x5 - 75-100 workers 


#28 Offline eea - Posted October 15 2024 - 3:23 PM

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Do cockerelli also eat seeds, or is that just a Pogonomyrmex thing?

My cockerelli do not take seeds but this might just be a thing with my colony or I am giving them the wrong seeds.



#29 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted October 15 2024 - 3:44 PM

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Are you referring to Camponotus vicinus or us-ca02?

ca 02


 

And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

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Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 


#30 Offline bmb1bee - Posted October 16 2024 - 8:57 AM

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ca 02

They take ages to reach those numbers anyway, as you'll likely barely exceed a hundred workers in the first year unless you constantly heat and powerfeed them. Both vicinus and ca02 reach similar colony sizes anyway, so using that to make a choice between them wouldn't make much of a difference. Vicinus sometimes have nicer colors, but ca02 get significantly larger and look more distinct anyway.


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#31 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted October 16 2024 - 10:14 AM

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Colony size can be controlled by food intake. Your colony can be as large or small as you want it to be.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#32 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted October 16 2024 - 3:23 PM

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What should hibernation temp be?


 

And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

Godzilla thread

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 


#33 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted October 16 2024 - 3:28 PM

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What should hibernation temp be?

45-50 degrees F is safe for ants that hibernate.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#34 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted October 16 2024 - 3:32 PM

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And they would be hibernating from late November to Feb? Could I also but an ice pack on them instead of leaving them in the fridge?

 

Edit: In dspdrew's store it says that they don't need hibernation.


Edited by AntsGodzilla, October 16 2024 - 3:35 PM.

 

And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

Godzilla thread

Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 


#35 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted October 16 2024 - 3:35 PM

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And they would be hibernating from late November to Feb? Could I also but an ice pack on them instead of leaving them in the fridge?

It depends on the area they were collected in. Species up here require 5 months of hibernation, while species from warmer temperate climates may only require 2 or 3.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#36 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted October 16 2024 - 3:40 PM

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And they would be hibernating from late November to Feb? Could I also but an ice pack on them instead of leaving them in the fridge?

 

Edit: In dspdrew's store it says that they don't need hibernation.

While it is theoretically possible to use an ice pack and an insulated cooler, I would not recommend it. I did this for a year and it is very time consuming to constantly be changing the ice packs out.


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#37 Offline bmb1bee - Posted October 16 2024 - 3:51 PM

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Ca02 are fine with room temperature for diapause, which multiple keepers have done without much issue.
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#38 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted October 26 2024 - 2:37 PM

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Does Camponotus ca-02 fit in 3/8 inch tube?


 

And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

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Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 


#39 Offline bmb1bee - Posted October 26 2024 - 2:39 PM

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From what I remember from keeping them last time, I'm pretty sure they do.


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#40 Offline AntsGodzilla - Posted November 7 2024 - 5:23 PM

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I heard some people have trouble during the founding for myrmecocystus mexicanus, but if I get a colony with 10+ workers, would it be easier to raise them? I keep asking this because this is one of the only times I'm able to buy ants.


 

And many Carnivorous plants such as: Dionea muscipula (fly trap), Sarracenia x 'Fiona' ( American Pitcher plant), Nepenthese ventrata (Tropical Pitcher plant), and Pinguicula agnata x emarginata (Butterwort) (show off your plants here)

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Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it stores it's provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. Proverbs 6: 6-8

 






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