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#1 Offline The_Gaming-gate - Posted April 3 2024 - 2:27 PM

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I am looking for a good plaster to make formicaria with. I know some will mold and that others may be too soft and will be easy for ants to tunnel in. In these regards, what would be the best plaster to use? Preferably one that won't be too expensive. I was thinking PerfectCast, will that work?


Edited by The_Gaming-gate, April 3 2024 - 2:28 PM.

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#2 Online GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted April 3 2024 - 2:41 PM

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I like using grout,firebrick,and perfect cast . Perfect cast is my favorite one so I would recommend it.



Currently keeping
1.Camponotus vicinus. 5 workers
2.Camponotus modoc. 5 workers
3. Camponotus hyatti. 1 worker
4.Veromessor pergandei. founding
5 Linepithema humile. 70-100 workers 5 queens
6. Pheidole Californica. 65 workers
I want: Atta,Myrmecia,Myrmica,Myrmecocystus


#3 Offline The_Gaming-gate - Posted April 3 2024 - 2:56 PM

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I like using grout,firebrick,and perfect cast . Perfect cast is my favorite one so I would recommend it.


Alright, perfect!
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#4 Online GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted April 3 2024 - 3:15 PM

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And I use magnets.to connect the glass.

Currently keeping
1.Camponotus vicinus. 5 workers
2.Camponotus modoc. 5 workers
3. Camponotus hyatti. 1 worker
4.Veromessor pergandei. founding
5 Linepithema humile. 70-100 workers 5 queens
6. Pheidole Californica. 65 workers
I want: Atta,Myrmecia,Myrmica,Myrmecocystus


#5 Offline Flu1d - Posted April 3 2024 - 3:20 PM

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Ultracal-30 is what I use. It absorbs moisture well and I haven't had a single issue with mold.
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#6 Online GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted April 3 2024 - 3:50 PM

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I have used both and they perform equally but perfect cast seems to be a little bit cheaper

Currently keeping
1.Camponotus vicinus. 5 workers
2.Camponotus modoc. 5 workers
3. Camponotus hyatti. 1 worker
4.Veromessor pergandei. founding
5 Linepithema humile. 70-100 workers 5 queens
6. Pheidole Californica. 65 workers
I want: Atta,Myrmecia,Myrmica,Myrmecocystus


#7 Offline The_Gaming-gate - Posted April 3 2024 - 5:42 PM

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Do you think a 3” x 3” nest is good for founding?

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#8 Online GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted April 3 2024 - 6:51 PM

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can work as founding but what species will you keep inside?



Currently keeping
1.Camponotus vicinus. 5 workers
2.Camponotus modoc. 5 workers
3. Camponotus hyatti. 1 worker
4.Veromessor pergandei. founding
5 Linepithema humile. 70-100 workers 5 queens
6. Pheidole Californica. 65 workers
I want: Atta,Myrmecia,Myrmica,Myrmecocystus


#9 Offline Flu1d - Posted April 3 2024 - 7:21 PM

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3x3 is kinda big for founding to be honest. I've found the best way to found is the test tube method, however some folks swear by the petri dish method as well.

That being said, if you can make it a tight 3x3 with tunnels and such, it's a fine size. But an open floor plan 3x3 would be a little too open and large.

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#10 Online GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted April 3 2024 - 7:44 PM

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I depends on the size of the colony too if it is a large type like camponotus it could work, but smaller type of and a test tube setup is optimal.



Currently keeping
1.Camponotus vicinus. 5 workers
2.Camponotus modoc. 5 workers
3. Camponotus hyatti. 1 worker
4.Veromessor pergandei. founding
5 Linepithema humile. 70-100 workers 5 queens
6. Pheidole Californica. 65 workers
I want: Atta,Myrmecia,Myrmica,Myrmecocystus


#11 Offline Flu1d - Posted April 3 2024 - 10:06 PM

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I depends on the size of the colony too if it is a large type like camponotus it could work, but smaller type of and a test tube setup is optimal.


It could work, absolutely, but it isn't optimal. Even larger species, especially Camponotus, prefer tighter areas where they can feel safe and secured.
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#12 Offline The_Gaming-gate - Posted April 4 2024 - 2:26 AM

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Oh wow, I thought that would work, guess not.
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#13 Online GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted April 4 2024 - 6:28 AM

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I depends on the size of the colony too if it is a large type like camponotus it could work, but smaller type of and a test tube setup is optimal.


It could work, absolutely, but it isn't optimal. Even larger species, especially Camponotus, prefer tighter areas where they can feel safe and secured.

 

This is also true ants don't't even need that much founding space. I found a C.sp queen who could barley move in her founding chamber. Even test tubes are like luxury to ants.



Currently keeping
1.Camponotus vicinus. 5 workers
2.Camponotus modoc. 5 workers
3. Camponotus hyatti. 1 worker
4.Veromessor pergandei. founding
5 Linepithema humile. 70-100 workers 5 queens
6. Pheidole Californica. 65 workers
I want: Atta,Myrmecia,Myrmica,Myrmecocystus


#14 Offline ANTdrew - Posted April 4 2024 - 6:32 AM

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I buy PerfectCast at Hobby Lobby. It is $7.99 for a four pound bag, which is a very good price. 


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#15 Online GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted April 4 2024 - 6:33 AM

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That is were I buy my perfect cast, always in my budget.



Currently keeping
1.Camponotus vicinus. 5 workers
2.Camponotus modoc. 5 workers
3. Camponotus hyatti. 1 worker
4.Veromessor pergandei. founding
5 Linepithema humile. 70-100 workers 5 queens
6. Pheidole Californica. 65 workers
I want: Atta,Myrmecia,Myrmica,Myrmecocystus


#16 Offline The_Gaming-gate - Posted April 4 2024 - 11:21 AM

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Can you just stick the magnets in the plaster before it hardens?

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#17 Offline ANTdrew - Posted April 4 2024 - 12:41 PM

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Can you just stick the magnets in the plaster before it hardens?

Yes. Look up all the great tutorials for making formicaria found in the archives.
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