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How long are Pheidole pallidula imagos distinguishable?


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#1 Offline williamlowry - Posted June 15 2021 - 2:44 AM

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Hello,

 

To those of you who have experience with rearing Pheidole pallidula colonies, how long does it usually take once a nymph pupa has become an adult, for it to become hard to distinguish from older workers? I know this might depend on various factors but is it possible that it could take less than 24 hours? 

 

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#2 Offline ANTS_KL - Posted June 15 2021 - 3:26 AM

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I don't understand what you mean from nymph. Pheidole species, like all other ants undergo complete metamorphosis. Meaning egg —> larva —> pupa —> adult. Meaning no nymphs. If you mean a white or yellow young worker, there is no way to distinguish between the older and younger once the younger ones darken in coloring. Apart from the separate castes : major, minor, reproducing gyne, virgin gyne, drones.

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Currently kept ant species, favorites have a star in front of their names (NOT in alphabetical order, also may be outdated sometimes): Camponotus irritans inferior, Ooceraea biroi, Pheidole parva, Nylanderia sp., Paraparatrechina tapinomoides, Platythyrea sp., Anochetus sp., Colobopsis sp. (cylindrica group), Crematogaster ferrarii, Polyrhachis (Myrma) cf. pruinosa, Polyrhachis (Cyrtomyrma) laevissima, Tapinoma sp. (formerly Zatapinoma)

Death count: Probably over a hundred individual queens and colonies by now. I cannot recall whatsoever.

#3 Offline williamlowry - Posted June 15 2021 - 3:55 AM

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I don't understand what you mean from nymph. Pheidole species, like all other ants undergo complete metamorphosis. Meaning egg —> larva —> pupa —> adult. Meaning no nymphs. If you mean a white or yellow young worker, there is no way to distinguish between the older and younger once the younger ones darken in coloring. Apart from the separate castes : major, minor, reproducing gyne, virgin gyne, drones.

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My bad, got lost in translation. In French, ants in the pupa stage are commonly referred to as "nymphes". My question therefore was how much time can you expect between the ant finishing its pupa life stage and that ant darkening enough that is becomes hard to distinguish from older adults. 



#4 Offline ANTS_KL - Posted June 15 2021 - 4:26 AM

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I don't understand what you mean from nymph. Pheidole species, like all other ants undergo complete metamorphosis. Meaning egg —> larva —> pupa —> adult. Meaning no nymphs. If you mean a white or yellow young worker, there is no way to distinguish between the older and younger once the younger ones darken in coloring. Apart from the separate castes : major, minor, reproducing gyne, virgin gyne, drones.

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My bad, got lost in translation. In French, ants in the pupa stage are commonly referred to as "nymphes". My question therefore was how much time can you expect between the ant finishing its pupa life stage and that ant darkening enough that is becomes hard to distinguish from older adults.
Usually takes around 2 days

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Young ant keeper with a decent amount of knowledge on local ant species.

YouTube: https://m.youtube.co...uKsahGliSH7EqOQ (It's pretty dead. Might upload again soon, don't expect my voice to sound the same though.)

Currently kept ant species, favorites have a star in front of their names (NOT in alphabetical order, also may be outdated sometimes): Camponotus irritans inferior, Ooceraea biroi, Pheidole parva, Nylanderia sp., Paraparatrechina tapinomoides, Platythyrea sp., Anochetus sp., Colobopsis sp. (cylindrica group), Crematogaster ferrarii, Polyrhachis (Myrma) cf. pruinosa, Polyrhachis (Cyrtomyrma) laevissima, Tapinoma sp. (formerly Zatapinoma)

Death count: Probably over a hundred individual queens and colonies by now. I cannot recall whatsoever.

#5 Offline williamlowry - Posted June 15 2021 - 4:52 AM

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I don't understand what you mean from nymph. Pheidole species, like all other ants undergo complete metamorphosis. Meaning egg —> larva —> pupa —> adult. Meaning no nymphs. If you mean a white or yellow young worker, there is no way to distinguish between the older and younger once the younger ones darken in coloring. Apart from the separate castes : major, minor, reproducing gyne, virgin gyne, drones.

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My bad, got lost in translation. In French, ants in the pupa stage are commonly referred to as "nymphes". My question therefore was how much time can you expect between the ant finishing its pupa life stage and that ant darkening enough that is becomes hard to distinguish from older adults.
Usually takes around 2 days

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Thanks !


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