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#1 Offline Crazycow - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:18 AM

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Okay so my Temnothorax colony had some pretty large larva about two weeks ago and i just thought they were gonna be fat workers but when i checked on them today 1st i was shocked at the amount of pupa but i also noticed a very interestingly shaped pupa and when i got out my macro lens i took some pic and noticed it had the three eyes on the top of its head that drones and queens have so i'm just confused on why. dose anyone know?

 

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#2 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:24 AM

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I think it's just their nuptial flight routine. Good job!  


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Ants are Pets, not Pests. 

 

-Camponotus sansabeanus

-Camponotus US-CA02

-Camponotus vicinus

-Formica podzolica

-Monomorium spp.

-Pogonomyrmex californicus

-Solenopsis spp. 

 


#3 Offline ReignofRage - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:24 AM

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They could be trophic eggs that didn't get eaten and will turn into males or your colony is mature enough to produce alates.


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#4 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:27 AM

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They could be trophic eggs that didn't get eaten and will turn into males or your colony is mature enough to produce alates.

I doubt its the first one, but the colony looks mature to me. Post an update when they mature into adults.  


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Ants are Pets, not Pests. 

 

-Camponotus sansabeanus

-Camponotus US-CA02

-Camponotus vicinus

-Formica podzolica

-Monomorium spp.

-Pogonomyrmex californicus

-Solenopsis spp. 

 


#5 Offline Crazycow - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:30 AM

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Okay I will but it’s just interesting they are mature enough they only have 14 workers

#6 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:32 AM

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Okay I will but it’s just interesting they are mature enough they only have 14 workers

14 workers? that's a large brood pile for only 14 workers. How old is the colony? 


Ants are Pets, not Pests. 

 

-Camponotus sansabeanus

-Camponotus US-CA02

-Camponotus vicinus

-Formica podzolica

-Monomorium spp.

-Pogonomyrmex californicus

-Solenopsis spp. 

 


#7 Offline NPLT - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:32 AM

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Okay I will but it’s just interesting they are mature enough they only have 14 workers

So probably uneaten trophic eggs, unless Temnothorax mature fast.


Edited by NPLT, June 7 2021 - 9:33 AM.

Um, uh, Ants!

 

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#8 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:33 AM

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Okay I will but it’s just interesting they are mature enough they only have 14 workers

So probably uneaten trophic eggs, unless Temnothorax mature fast.

 

Sad, but probably true. I don't think ants could mature that quickly. 


Ants are Pets, not Pests. 

 

-Camponotus sansabeanus

-Camponotus US-CA02

-Camponotus vicinus

-Formica podzolica

-Monomorium spp.

-Pogonomyrmex californicus

-Solenopsis spp. 

 


#9 Offline Crazycow - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:35 AM

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I collected them from the wild because I was looking at a camponotus colony and found then In a stick and saw the queen so I just put in a collection container. This was early in the year so they probably had just started waking up from diapause. And I’ve had them for like 2 months now
Wait no more than 2 months it’s been like 3… wow time flys

Edited by Crazycow, June 7 2021 - 9:35 AM.


#10 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:37 AM

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I collected them from the wild because I was looking at a camponotus colony and found then In a stick and saw the queen so I just put in a collection container. This was early in the year so they probably had just started waking up from diapause. And I’ve had them for like 2 months now

How many workers did the colony have when you collected them? If you only collected a small portion of it then it was probably mature and is just following their original schedule.  


Ants are Pets, not Pests. 

 

-Camponotus sansabeanus

-Camponotus US-CA02

-Camponotus vicinus

-Formica podzolica

-Monomorium spp.

-Pogonomyrmex californicus

-Solenopsis spp. 

 


#11 Offline ReignofRage - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:37 AM

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I collected them from the wild because I was looking at a camponotus colony and found then In a stick and saw the queen so I just put in a collection container. This was early in the year so they probably had just started waking up from diapause. And I’ve had them for like 2 months now
Wait no more than 2 months it’s been like 3… wow time flys

When you collect a colony, try to collect all the workers.



#12 Offline Crazycow - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:39 AM

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I collected them from the wild because I was looking at a camponotus colony and found then In a stick and saw the queen so I just put in a collection container. This was early in the year so they probably had just started waking up from diapause. And I’ve had them for like 2 months now

How many workers did the colony have when you collected them? If you only collected a small portion of it then it was probably mature and is just following their original schedule.
There was 15 in the stick and one died about 3 weeks after collection. And I never saw any on the ground or around the stick but it’s possible that I missed some


I collected them from the wild because I was looking at a camponotus colony and found then In a stick and saw the queen so I just put in a collection container. This was early in the year so they probably had just started waking up from diapause. And I’ve had them for like 2 months now
Wait no more than 2 months it’s been like 3… wow time flys

When you collect a colony, try to collect all the workers.
I tried

#13 Offline ReignofRage - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:40 AM

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Was probably a satellite nest since you didn't see many workers.



#14 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:41 AM

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Because this is a wild colony, you probably missed some workers, so the colony is more mature than you think.  


Ants are Pets, not Pests. 

 

-Camponotus sansabeanus

-Camponotus US-CA02

-Camponotus vicinus

-Formica podzolica

-Monomorium spp.

-Pogonomyrmex californicus

-Solenopsis spp. 

 


#15 Offline Crazycow - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:42 AM

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Okay that makes sense, well they are about to explode in population. They have a good 30-40 pupa

#16 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:50 AM

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Okay that makes sense, well they are about to explode in population. They have a good 30-40 pupa

that's good to hear. When the alates mature, just catch them and release them outside. 


Ants are Pets, not Pests. 

 

-Camponotus sansabeanus

-Camponotus US-CA02

-Camponotus vicinus

-Formica podzolica

-Monomorium spp.

-Pogonomyrmex californicus

-Solenopsis spp. 

 


#17 Offline Crazycow - Posted June 7 2021 - 9:51 AM

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Will do
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#18 Offline Crazycow - Posted June 17 2021 - 5:59 PM

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Alright update on the alates. They have enclosed and there is 1 drone and one queen rn. Only weird thing is that the queen alate is very small and isn’t much bigger that a worker. Is she a microgen?




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