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#1 Offline SardineBoy6.0 - Posted August 29 2020 - 2:29 PM

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hey everyone,

i keep tetramorium immagrans and i was wondering, how do they do around water? i have 2 plans, one with a slow moving river. the other with a waterfall and fast moving stream. which should i go with or should i just scrap both plans completely?



#2 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 29 2020 - 3:16 PM

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They absolutely abhor open liquids near their nest. Can you clarify more about what your plan is? Some kind of big palluadarium?
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#3 Offline Antkid12 - Posted August 29 2020 - 3:19 PM

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If you are making a paludarium I think it would be better to use a bigger ant like camponotus.


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Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

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#4 Offline Devi - Posted August 29 2020 - 3:39 PM

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If you are making a paludarium I think it would be better to use a bigger ant like camponotus.

 

Very much agreed.  I think something in the formica group would look awesome in a paludarium.  A  deserty pogonomyrmex paludarium would look awesome as well...



#5 Offline SardineBoy6.0 - Posted August 29 2020 - 3:46 PM

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ok thanks guys i will take this into mind. what is a good beginner species that would like water near their nest?


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#6 Offline Spazmops - Posted August 29 2020 - 7:07 PM

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If you are making a paludarium I think it would be better to use a bigger ant like camponotus.

 

Very much agreed.  I think something in the formica group would look awesome in a paludarium.  A  deserty pogonomyrmex paludarium would look awesome as well...

 

Too bad deserts are dry... ;)


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#7 Offline SardineBoy6.0 - Posted August 29 2020 - 9:32 PM

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ok so i have a new plan. it involves having a) a water cup with water and a mister, or B) just having a wet sponge in the cup for the ants to drink from. which should i go with, a or b?



#8 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 30 2020 - 2:58 AM

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I’d highly recommend using byFormica liquid feeders. One thing to think about is that having super high humidity in their set up will wreck any kind of escape barriers, plus contribute to mold problems. That wouldn’t be an issue if you went a bioactive route, however.
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#9 Offline Antkid12 - Posted August 30 2020 - 3:59 AM

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ok thanks guys i will take this into mind. what is a good beginner species that would like water near their nest?

I often see camponotus pennsylvanicus near creeks.


Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 


#10 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 30 2020 - 4:21 AM

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A big palliadarium could be an effective way to contain Crematogaster. I’d put a big island in the middle for them to forage on with a big, cool looking piece of rotten wood sticking up for them to nest in. Hmmm, maybe I should actually do this?
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#11 Offline Antkid12 - Posted August 30 2020 - 4:27 AM

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A big palliadarium could be an effective way to contain Crematogaster. I’d put a big island in the middle for them to forage on with a big, cool looking piece of rotten wood sticking up for them to nest in. Hmmm, maybe I should actually do this?

That would be awesome!!! 


Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 


#12 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted August 30 2020 - 6:11 AM

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A big palliadarium could be an effective way to contain Crematogaster. I’d put a big island in the middle for them to forage on with a big, cool looking piece of rotten wood sticking up for them to nest in. Hmmm, maybe I should actually do this?

That would be awesome!!! 

 

What if they get too big and start floating across the water?
 


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#13 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 30 2020 - 6:35 AM

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Oh, they would find a way. That goes without saying.
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#14 Offline SardineBoy6.0 - Posted August 30 2020 - 8:35 AM

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I’d highly recommend using byFormica liquid feeders. One thing to think about is that having super high humidity in their set up will wreck any kind of escape barriers, plus contribute to mold problems. That wouldn’t be an issue if you went a bioactive route, however.

if i go with the mister i will go the bioactive rout. but now i am worried about my bariers breaking. do you know anything that could fix this?



#15 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted August 30 2020 - 9:31 AM

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I’d highly recommend using byFormica liquid feeders. One thing to think about is that having super high humidity in their set up will wreck any kind of escape barriers, plus contribute to mold problems. That wouldn’t be an issue if you went a bioactive route, however.

if i go with the mister i will go the bioactive rout. but now i am worried about my bariers breaking. do you know anything that could fix this?

 

A lid.


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#16 Offline SardineBoy6.0 - Posted August 30 2020 - 11:14 AM

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I’d highly recommend using byFormica liquid feeders. One thing to think about is that having super high humidity in their set up will wreck any kind of escape barriers, plus contribute to mold problems. That wouldn’t be an issue if you went a bioactive route, however.

if i go with the mister i will go the bioactive rout. but now i am worried about my bariers breaking. do you know anything that could fix this?

 

A lid.

 

the problem with a lid is when i open it to feed them they will all escape



#17 Offline Spazmops - Posted August 30 2020 - 11:42 AM

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I’d highly recommend using byFormica liquid feeders. One thing to think about is that having super high humidity in their set up will wreck any kind of escape barriers, plus contribute to mold problems. That wouldn’t be an issue if you went a bioactive route, however.

if i go with the mister i will go the bioactive rout. but now i am worried about my bariers breaking. do you know anything that could fix this?

 

A lid.

 

the problem with a lid is when i open it to feed them they will all escape

 

Not if you’re quick. Lids or barriers are really the only things, unless you have access to some unreleased force field technology.


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1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

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1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 


#18 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 30 2020 - 1:25 PM

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That’s why you want a low humidity foraging area, so you can put something like Fluon.
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