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Pupa vs Coccoon


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#1 Offline Mihai274 - Posted July 25 2020 - 10:37 AM

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Hey. I read that some ants life cycle is like this:egg-larva-pupa-worker and other ants life cycle is like:egg-larva-coccoon-worker.What is the difference between pupa an Coccoon?

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#2 Offline BADANT - Posted July 25 2020 - 10:43 AM

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Some ants eclose in a cocoon and some do not. They are both forms of the larvae stage. Those that close without a cocoon are visible to watch and admire. You can watch them form their exoskeleton and in the last few days they get most of their colors


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#3 Offline Broncos - Posted July 25 2020 - 10:43 AM

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Hey. I read that some ants life cycle is like this:egg-larva-pupa-worker and other ants life cycle is like:egg-larva-coccoon-worker.What is the difference between pupa an Coccoon?

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Some ant species spin cocoons and some don’t.

Inside of a cocoon is a pupae, then when the pupae wakes up it brakes out of the cocoon, becoming an ant.
When the species doesn’t spin cocoons they just wake up without having to break out of their cocoons. There is a better way to say this but I’m not sure how
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#4 Offline Mihai274 - Posted July 25 2020 - 10:50 AM

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I understand now thx

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#5 Offline DDD101DDD - Posted July 25 2020 - 10:51 AM

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Ants species with cocoons have larvae that spin the cocoon first, and then they turn in to pupae inside of the cocoon. Although sometimes species with cocoons don't spin cocoons. Ant species with naked pupae have larvae that go directly to pupae, skipping the cocoon step.


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#6 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted July 28 2020 - 12:53 PM

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Wondering if weaver ant larvae whose silk isn't used up for building leaf nests will spin a cocoon?  :lol:

Just wondering.


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Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

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#7 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 28 2020 - 2:15 PM

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Wondering if weaver ant larvae whose silk isn't used up for building leaf nests will spin a cocoon?  :lol:

Just wondering.

I don't think so.


Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

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Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 


#8 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted July 28 2020 - 3:01 PM

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Wondering if weaver ant larvae whose silk isn't used up for building leaf nests will spin a cocoon?  :lol:

Just wondering.

They don't.


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