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#1 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 5 2020 - 3:54 PM

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Today while searching through a Cape Cod(MA) pine barren/coniferous forest, I found a Proceratium dealate Queen under a large log(Aprox three feet in diameter). The log was barely starting to grow mold and fungi, but still remained mostly sterile of pathogen growth. She was in a small, round chamber with no eggs or larvae present. I am extremely eager to try and raise her, although I’m certain it won’t be without challenges. They are known to prey on only arthropod eggs, which will be difficult to constantly provide. I am gathering as much information as I can as to what nesting preferences they have. Any information is greatly appreciated.

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#2 Offline NickAnter - Posted September 5 2020 - 4:08 PM

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Awesome!!!


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#3 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 5 2020 - 5:10 PM

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Very excited for this! Good luck!


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#4 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:09 AM

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Some more pics of her, this is the best I can do without lighting

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Anyone know what species in particular?
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#5 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:15 AM

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Looks like P. crassicorne from those pics.


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#6 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:16 AM

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I’m in Massachusetts, found her in cape cod. I was thinking the same although you can’t really say for sure.

#7 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:17 AM

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I’m in Massachusetts, found her in cape cod. I was thinking the same although you can’t really say for sure.

Could you get a side view of her?


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#8 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:20 AM

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These are the only shots I have of her side, with my phone macro lens I usually just take a video and then screenshot the best frames.

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Those are the best I got. Thank you for your help.
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#9 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:21 AM

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I would need to see the side of her abdomen. 


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#10 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 8:22 AM

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I’m heading home later today, I have lighting and a white backdrop so I should be able to get some better pictures of her then.
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#11 Offline ponerinecat - Posted September 7 2020 - 12:45 PM

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What are you feeding her? Might be worth it to start breeding spiders.


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#12 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 12:56 PM

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Would it be worth breeding them? I know they lay in sacks, but would they make enough to sustainably harvest from a group of spiders? I have no idea how frequently they breed

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Maybe just go out into the woods or somewhere even your backyard and lift up different rocks and you might find lots of egg-sacks that happens a lot when I lift up rocks. :)


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1X Pogonomyrmex occidentalis 40-50 Workers

1X Solenopsis molesta 10 Workers (mono)

Ants I Want: Crematogaster sp, Camponotus Sp., Ponera Pennsylvanica, Mymercocystus sp.

 

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#14 Offline Antkeeper01 - Posted September 7 2020 - 1:06 PM

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Please go to my journal so you might be able to give me advice because one of my colonies isn't eating.


1X Pogonomyrmex occidentalis 40-50 Workers

1X Solenopsis molesta 10 Workers (mono)

Ants I Want: Crematogaster sp, Camponotus Sp., Ponera Pennsylvanica, Mymercocystus sp.

 

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#15 Offline ponerinecat - Posted September 7 2020 - 4:16 PM

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Maybe just go out into the woods or somewhere even your backyard and lift up different rocks and you might find lots of egg-sacks that happens a lot when I lift up rocks. :)

there's evidence to suggest that eggs taken have to be of a certain age, apparently very young. This is why a closely monitored supply would be ideal. You might have to harvest them shortly after being laid.


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#16 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 4:18 PM

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If that proves to be true I will probably end up breeding them.
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#17 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 5:33 PM

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A shot of her unique gaster shape

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What a cool species

#18 Offline ponerinecat - Posted September 7 2020 - 5:34 PM

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Looks like crassicorne.


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#19 Offline Antkeeper014 - Posted September 7 2020 - 5:37 PM

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Looks like crassicorne.


Agreed, thank you

#20 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted September 7 2020 - 7:29 PM

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Yep, looks like P. crassicorne to me as well.


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