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Temnothorax Talk

Started By Kaelwizard , Jul 22 2020 7:46 AM

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#1 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted July 22 2020 - 7:46 AM

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I thinks it’s about time we talk about our favorite tiny ant genus. Anyone can document their experiences, maybe explain care, and talk about literally anything about this amazing genus.
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#2 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 22 2020 - 8:13 AM

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Nother one, huh?


I feel like it'd be simpler to do entire tribes instead of any genus that comes up.


For example tetramorium and temnothorax both fit into crematogastrini.


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#3 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted July 22 2020 - 8:26 AM

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Nother one, huh?


I feel like it'd be simpler to do entire tribes instead of any genus that comes up.


For example tetramorium and temnothorax both fit into crematogastrini.

Yes.


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#4 Offline AntsDakota - Posted July 22 2020 - 8:33 AM

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Nother one, huh?
I feel like it'd be simpler to do entire tribes instead of any genus that comes up.
For example tetramorium and temnothorax both fit into crematogastrini.

Don't forget Crematogaster..........

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

#5 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 22 2020 - 8:37 AM

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Can anyone explain how to find them?


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

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#6 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 22 2020 - 8:37 AM

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Can anyone explain how to find them?

blacklight is one way.


Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#7 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 22 2020 - 8:45 AM

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What about finding colonies? I have queens but they aren't the type I was hoping for.


Veromessor pergandei

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Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#8 Offline AntsDakota - Posted July 22 2020 - 8:45 AM

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What about finding colonies? I have queens but they aren't the type I was hoping for.

Go to a wooded area and break open large twigs and sticks. They also nest in acorns and hickory nuts.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

#9 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 22 2020 - 8:47 AM

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I went to a wooded area with oaks and there were no acorns but then I saw someone post they found a queen there when I got home.  :facepalm:


Edited by M_Ants, July 22 2020 - 8:48 AM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#10 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted July 22 2020 - 9:16 AM

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I went to a wooded area with oaks and there were no acorns but then I saw someone post they found a queen there when I got home. :facepalm:

Were there hollow twigs? That’s where I found my Temnothorax longispinosus, though you won’t find those as they are an eastern species.

#11 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 22 2020 - 9:19 AM

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Probably. What are the odd of finding a colony by cracking random twigs though?


Veromessor pergandei

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Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#12 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted July 22 2020 - 9:21 AM

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Nother one, huh?

I feel like it'd be simpler to do entire tribes instead of any genus that comes up.

For example tetramorium and temnothorax both fit into crematogastrini.

TarantulaForum has subforums for some popular genera like Avicularia and Brachypelma.

#13 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 22 2020 - 9:28 AM

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But if care among the ant genera is extremely similar for most crematogastrini, why bother while clogging up the forums? Tarantulas are very sensitive animals and I doubt care for one genus is adequate for another.


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#14 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 22 2020 - 9:31 AM

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I found my now dead queens under a stone, under a tree. But that is a terrestrial sp, so I don't know much about finding arboreal ones.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#15 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted July 22 2020 - 9:38 AM

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But if care among the ant genera is extremely similar for most crematogastrini, why bother while clogging up the forums? Tarantulas are very sensitive animals and I doubt care for one genus is adequate for another.

Tarantulas are hardly sensitive. Most New World genera barely need anything other than a hide, substrate, food, water, and maybe some misting occasionally. Sorry for getting off topic but I would just like to point that out because I keep some.

#16 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 22 2020 - 9:40 AM

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Ah, I see. I still think all these genus level threads are rather unnecessary.


#17 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 22 2020 - 9:48 AM

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Ah, I see. I still think all these genus level threads are rather unnecessary.

Yep. But they're fun.


Veromessor pergandei

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Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#18 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted July 22 2020 - 9:50 AM

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Ah, I see. I still think all these genus level threads are rather unnecessary.

Maybe they are. Since some people may not be familiar with tribes (like me before I found out what that was this year) we should do families, like Formicinae and Myrmicinae?

#19 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 22 2020 - 9:54 AM

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Subfamilies btw, all of ants is the family formicidae. And nah, subfamilies are often either too diverse or too niche.


#20 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted July 22 2020 - 9:55 AM

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Subfamilies btw, all of ants is the family formicidae. And nah, subfamilies are often either too diverse or too niche.

Oh my mistake, and now that I think about it, yeah they are too diverse.
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