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Colorado 7-20

Started By Spazmops , Jul 20 2020 6:31 PM

Best Answer Aaron567 , July 21 2020 - 12:57 PM

Pogonomyrmex male alate.

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#1 Offline Spazmops - Posted July 20 2020 - 6:31 PM

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1. Location (on a map) of collection: Buena Vista, Colorado
2. Date of collection: 7-20
3. Habitat of collection: desert
4. Length (from head to gaster): 5-6 mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: black ant with reddish/brown gaster
6. Distinguishing characteristics: gaster is nearly spherical, with a pointed end
7. Distinguishing behavior: huge nuptial flight at 2:00
8. Nest description: unknown
9. Nuptial flight time and date: 2:00, 7-20
Pogonomyrmex pencosensis male alate is my best guess.

Macro unknown queen

Edited by Spazmops, July 21 2020 - 3:18 PM.

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Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 

#2 Offline Nogbert - Posted July 21 2020 - 8:58 AM

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why do you think it's a drone? definitely looks more queen-like to me.


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#3 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 21 2020 - 9:33 AM

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Definitely is a queen, look at that head. Just still has its wings from nuptial flight, looks like Camponotus sp. also, the photo is too far to give a specific ID.
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(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#4 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 21 2020 - 9:45 AM

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I'm not sure this is an ant. No North American queen species looks like this. If it is an ant, my guess is its a male. can't tell for sure until better pictures are posted.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#5 Offline Aaron567 - Posted July 21 2020 - 12:57 PM   Best Answer

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Pogonomyrmex male alate.


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#6 Offline Spazmops - Posted July 21 2020 - 3:08 PM

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I’ll work on getting a better photo, my iPad isn’t very equipped for macro photography.

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Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 

#7 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 21 2020 - 3:24 PM

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Pogonomyrmex male alate.

With the new picture, I agree.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#8 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 21 2020 - 3:47 PM

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Pogonomyrmex males are extremely distinct.


#9 Offline Spazmops - Posted July 21 2020 - 3:48 PM

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Pogonomyrmex male alate.

With the new picture, I agree.
It’s odd, because it looks like a male’s body, but for a male it has rather small eyes and a pretty big head. Some pogonomyrmex queens do have pointed gasters like that however

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Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 

#10 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 21 2020 - 3:56 PM

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Pogonomyrmex male alate.

With the new picture, I agree.
It’s odd, because it looks like a male’s body, but for a male it has rather small eyes and a pretty big head. Some pogonomyrmex queens do have pointed gasters like that however

 

It's not "pointed" like some Pogonomyrmex queens with deflated gasters, rather that's the protruding genitalia. Instantly marks it as a male.


#11 Offline Spazmops - Posted July 21 2020 - 4:16 PM

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Pogonomyrmex male alate.

With the new picture, I agree.
It’s odd, because it looks like a male’s body, but for a male it has rather small eyes and a pretty big head. Some pogonomyrmex queens do have pointed gasters like that however
It's not "pointed" like some Pogonomyrmex queens with deflated gasters, rather that's the protruding genitalia. Instantly marks it as a male.
Ah, I see. Thank you for the explanation

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Ants I have:

1 Formica fusca group- 0 workers

1 Tetramorium immigrans colony-20 workers

1 Dorymyrmex insanus- 1 queen, used to have workers

 

1 large P. occidentalis colony- around 50 workers, plenty of brood

 

 

#12 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 21 2020 - 4:37 PM

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Oh, now I see it’s a Pogomyrmex male with the better photo.
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen
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