Jump to content

  • Gallery
  • Members
  • Member Map
  • Chat
  •  
  •  

Welcome to Formiculture.com!

This is a website for anyone interested in Myrmecology and all aspects of finding, keeping, and studying ants. The site and forum are free to use. Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation points to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!

Photo

Two more ant ID's

Started By Froggy , Jun 10 2020 1:06 PM

  • Please log in to reply
14 replies to this topic

#1 Offline Froggy - Posted June 10 2020 - 1:06 PM

Froggy

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 167 posts
  • LocationCave Creek, Arizona

I forgot to add these two to my other post lol

 

Ant #1

 

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Cave Creek, AZ
2. Date of collection: N/A
3. Habitat of collection: Desert Brush
4. Length (from head to gaster): ~4mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Dark Red-Brown head, Yellow-Brown thorax, Dark Brown Gaster
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Twelve segmented antenna, one petiole node
7. Distinguishing behavior: They seemed to come in and out of the nest in waves of three-five at a time
8. Nest description: small to large dirt crater with small rocks and sticks on entrance

9. Nuptial flight time and date: N/A

 

Images:

 

K1IlELL.jpg5SiCQcS.jpg

 

Ant #2

 

Probably a species of Crematogaster

 

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Cave Creek, AZ

2. Date of collection: N/A
3. Habitat of collection: Desert Brush
4. Length (from head to gaster): ~5mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Dark Brown head, Yellow-Brown thorax, Dark Brown Gaster
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Eleven segmented antenna, one petiole node, tip of gaster is pointed
7. Distinguishing behavior: They have a trail going up a tree
8. Nest description: N/A

9. Nuptial flight time and date: N/A

 

Images:

 

zx1PgdG.jpg


Edited by Froggy, June 10 2020 - 5:39 PM.

#2 Offline AntsDakota - Posted June 10 2020 - 1:11 PM

AntsDakota

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,994 posts
  • LocationSioux Falls, South Dakota
1 is Dorymyrmex sp., could be bicolor. Seen then everywhere in suburban Phoenix.

Edited by AntsDakota, June 10 2020 - 1:11 PM.

  • Froggy likes this

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

#3 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 10 2020 - 2:29 PM

NickAnter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,307 posts
  • LocationOrange County, California

1) Possibly D. flavus

2) Image does not work, but is not Crematogaster, as they have two petiole nodes.


  • Froggy likes this

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#4 Offline Froggy - Posted June 10 2020 - 5:34 PM

Froggy

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 167 posts
  • LocationCave Creek, Arizona

1) Possibly D. flavus

2) Image does not work, but is not Crematogaster, as they have two petiole nodes.

I fixed the image


Edited by Froggy, June 10 2020 - 5:40 PM.

#5 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 10 2020 - 5:43 PM

NickAnter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,307 posts
  • LocationOrange County, California

It is indeed Crematogaster. That means it does have two petiole nodes.


  • TennesseeAnts, Antennal_Scrobe and Froggy like this

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#6 Offline Froggy - Posted June 10 2020 - 5:49 PM

Froggy

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 167 posts
  • LocationCave Creek, Arizona

It is indeed Crematogaster. That means it does have two petiole nodes.

Oops, I guess I counted wrong lol, would you need better photos for a more exact ID cause I can try take more tonight


  • NickAnter likes this

#7 Offline ponerinecat - Posted June 10 2020 - 5:53 PM

ponerinecat

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,650 posts
  • LocationCalifornia

 

It is indeed Crematogaster. That means it does have two petiole nodes.

Oops, I guess I counted wrong lol, would you need better photos for a more exact ID cause I can try take more tonight

 

Crematogaster tend to raise the gaster up, sometimes hiding a petiole node from view.


  • NickAnter, Antennal_Scrobe and Froggy like this

#8 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 10 2020 - 5:56 PM

NickAnter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,307 posts
  • LocationOrange County, California

Crematogaster in the west are pretty much impossible to idea.


  • Antennal_Scrobe and Froggy like this

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#9 Offline Froggy - Posted June 10 2020 - 6:03 PM

Froggy

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 167 posts
  • LocationCave Creek, Arizona

Crematogaster in the west are pretty much impossible to idea.

Oh ok, thanks for all the help with ID's!


#10 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted June 10 2020 - 7:17 PM

Antennal_Scrobe

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 933 posts
  • LocationMilwaukee, Wisconsin

Crematogaster in the west are pretty much impossible to idea.

Crematogaster anywhere are pretty much impossible to ID, to be honest.


  • TennesseeAnts and Froggy like this

Currently keeping:

 

Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis

#11 Offline ANTdrew - Posted June 11 2020 - 2:46 AM

ANTdrew

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPip
  • 9,500 posts
  • LocationAlexandria, VA


Crematogaster in the west are pretty much impossible to idea.

Crematogaster anywhere are pretty much impossible to ID, to be honest.
Yup
  • Antennal_Scrobe and Froggy like this
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#12 Offline ponerinecat - Posted June 11 2020 - 8:15 AM

ponerinecat

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,650 posts
  • LocationCalifornia

Unless its an oddball like inflata.

800px-Crematogaster_inflata%2C_Mersing%2


  • TennesseeAnts, Antennal_Scrobe and Froggy like this

#13 Offline ANTdrew - Posted June 11 2020 - 9:42 AM

ANTdrew

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • PipPipPip
  • 9,500 posts
  • LocationAlexandria, VA
What the HECK is that!?!?
  • TennesseeAnts and Froggy like this
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#14 Offline Froggy - Posted June 11 2020 - 9:45 AM

Froggy

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 167 posts
  • LocationCave Creek, Arizona

What the HECK is that!?!?

Exactly what I was thinking


#15 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted June 11 2020 - 9:54 AM

TennesseeAnts

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 4,920 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee

What the HECK is that!?!?

Its an epic Crema worker.


  • ANTdrew likes this

My Main Journal | My Neivamyrmex Journal | My Ant Adoption | My YouTube

Join the TennesseeAnts Discord Server! https://discord.gg/JbKwPgs

Back to Ant ID Requests · Next Unread Topic →


1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users