Jump to content

  • Chat
  •  
  •  

Welcome to Formiculture.com!

This is a website for anyone interested in Myrmecology and all aspects of finding, keeping, and studying ants. The site and forum are free to use. Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation points to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!

Photo

rcbuggy88's Camponotus clarithorax Journal (Updated 6/26/20) with possible gynandromorph

camponotus queen fertilization journal rcbuggy88 partial wierd colony ant gynandromorphs gynandromorph

  • Please log in to reply
30 replies to this topic

#21 Offline AntsDakota - Posted May 15 2020 - 10:04 AM

AntsDakota

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,994 posts
  • LocationSioux Falls, South Dakota

I love Solenopsia molesta, too. I never got the prejudice against small ants. A bunch of huge Camponotus huddled up with full social stomachs doing nothing for days at a time is my idea of boring. To each his own, though.

Around here, they have massive flights, where thousands of queens can be seen walking around. I could collect dozens, and they would all get along fine. They even breed in the nest: Solenopsis molesta inbreeding - General - Ants & Myrmecology Forum. They also grow as large as Tetramorium, yet don't require nearly as much space.


  • ANTdrew likes this

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version


#22 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted May 16 2020 - 11:09 AM

OhNoNotAgain

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,064 posts
  • LocationCalifornia Argentine Ant Territory

Wow, I'm really interested in all these gynandromorphs showing up. Do they always have the wing stubs?

Really cool.


  • AntsDakota likes this

Formiculture Journals::

Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus, vicinus, quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and previously californicus

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.


#23 Offline AntsDakota - Posted May 16 2020 - 11:37 AM

AntsDakota

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,994 posts
  • LocationSioux Falls, South Dakota

 now the queen is partially fertilized?

No, a queen is either fertilized or its not. A fertilized queen can produce males as well. 


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version


#24 Offline rcbuggy88 - Posted May 16 2020 - 6:57 PM

rcbuggy88

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 122 posts
  • LocationBay Area, CA

Its not that small ants are boring, its just that I see monomorium all the time and they are kinda the only ant in the area within a mile radius walking around. Camponotus aren't really in the area and the closest place I know they are is like 3+ish mi away and even then its mostly prenolepis there (which would be cool to catch but of the 4 queens that I caught, 2 died within a week, 1 died sometime a month later with no eggs, and 1 has eggs but no workers after 3 months (but still alive). Solenopsis would be cool but there are none nearby.

 

In preparation for the weird hybrid male nanitic, is isopropyl alcohol sufficient in a small container? (I have 70 and 90%) I was reading about Kahle's solution is that worth buying? I was reading the point of the solution was to keep the insect from turning black, but its already black so idk. 

 

I will hopefully post some more pictures for better identification tomorrow.

 

edit: might not even be monomorium, might just be argentines. 


Edited by rcbuggy88, May 16 2020 - 7:13 PM.

  • TennesseeAnts and ANTdrew like this

My Shop     :D  :iamsohappy:  :dance3:  :yahoo:

Currently Keeping: Camponotus clarithorax, Camponotus hyatti, Tetramorium immigransNylanderia vividula, Liometopum occidentaleCamponotus modoc, Zootermopsis sp.

Wanted: Acromyrmex versicolor, Myrmecocystus sp., Camponotus us-ca02 (vibrant red not dull orange), Prenolepis imparis, Anything else I don't have lol...

Kept Before: Solenopsis molesta, Prenolepis imparis (still got one, but infertile)


#25 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted May 17 2020 - 8:27 AM

YsTheAnt

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,435 posts
  • LocationSan Jose, CA
Nice colony! Its amazing how you got such a rare genetic anomaly. By the way, these look like Camponotus clarithorax :)

Edited by YsTheAnt, May 17 2020 - 8:28 AM.

  • rcbuggy88 likes this

Instagram          Journal           Shop


#26 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted May 19 2020 - 10:28 AM

Kaelwizard

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 2,852 posts
  • LocationPoway, California

If you see monomorium all the time, your are lucky. Are you sure they aren't tetramorium or something?


  • AntsDakota likes this

#27 Offline AntsDakota - Posted May 19 2020 - 11:21 AM

AntsDakota

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 3,994 posts
  • LocationSioux Falls, South Dakota

Its not that small ants are boring, its just that I see monomorium all the time and they are kinda the only ant in the area within a mile radius walking around.

I see Solenopsis molesta all the time, and I still consider them one of my favorite ants..........


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version


#28 Offline rcbuggy88 - Posted May 19 2020 - 4:18 PM

rcbuggy88

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 122 posts
  • LocationBay Area, CA

Dude I have no clue I'm a complete newbie. All I know is they are very polygynous, black not brown, and pretty tiny. The males are also a deep black. I'm pretty sure its either monomorium, argentines, or tetra. They are too small to see clearly with my phone macro lens.

 

Edit: Videos too big to upload


Edited by rcbuggy88, May 19 2020 - 4:18 PM.

My Shop     :D  :iamsohappy:  :dance3:  :yahoo:

Currently Keeping: Camponotus clarithorax, Camponotus hyatti, Tetramorium immigransNylanderia vividula, Liometopum occidentaleCamponotus modoc, Zootermopsis sp.

Wanted: Acromyrmex versicolor, Myrmecocystus sp., Camponotus us-ca02 (vibrant red not dull orange), Prenolepis imparis, Anything else I don't have lol...

Kept Before: Solenopsis molesta, Prenolepis imparis (still got one, but infertile)


#29 Offline JenC - Posted May 19 2020 - 6:15 PM

JenC

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 339 posts
  • LocationSan Francisco, California
Camponotus Clarithorax or Hyatti probably
Argentines are smaller. Tetra queens look a little bit like Veromessor. Monos are also smaller.

Edited by JenC, May 19 2020 - 6:16 PM.

Current Colonies:
1x Camponotus Vicinus (3 Workers)

Single Queens:
3x Camponotus Clarithorax
4x Camponotus Maritimus
5x Camponotus Ca02
7x Camponotus Sansabeanus
1x Myrmecocustus Testaceus
3x Prenolepis Imparis

#30 Offline rcbuggy88 - Posted June 9 2020 - 3:14 PM

rcbuggy88

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 122 posts
  • LocationBay Area, CA

6/9/20

 

I've brood boosted from a local Camponotus colony, the gynandromorph has died, all it did for the days before death was getting its leg stuck in the cotton. It's it isopropyl alcohol currently. The colony currently has 3 workers 1 pupae, 2 large larvae, and a couple eggs/small larvae plus the couple brood that I boosted. I got some extension tubes so I'm using a dslr and the 35 mm has too much distortion around the edges and only the very center is in focus.

 

 

Attached Images

  • _MG_1134.JPG
  • _MG_1165.JPG

  • TennesseeAnts likes this

My Shop     :D  :iamsohappy:  :dance3:  :yahoo:

Currently Keeping: Camponotus clarithorax, Camponotus hyatti, Tetramorium immigransNylanderia vividula, Liometopum occidentaleCamponotus modoc, Zootermopsis sp.

Wanted: Acromyrmex versicolor, Myrmecocystus sp., Camponotus us-ca02 (vibrant red not dull orange), Prenolepis imparis, Anything else I don't have lol...

Kept Before: Solenopsis molesta, Prenolepis imparis (still got one, but infertile)


#31 Offline rcbuggy88 - Posted June 26 2020 - 3:38 PM

rcbuggy88

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 122 posts
  • LocationBay Area, CA

6/26/20

 

Some more news, a new worker has arrived. She is deformed and very pale. I expect she is from the brood that I boosted from a wild colony. One of the front legs is bent backwards and not used. Walks in a weird way, hopefully the colony will use her as a replete. She also has a deformed wing on one side. Honestly idk what I'm doing but I'm getting a lot of deformations from this colony lol.

 

edit: oh and also the wild colony I got the brood from wasn't fragilis it was some sort of all black species.

Attached Images

  • _MG_1350.JPG

Edited by rcbuggy88, June 26 2020 - 3:39 PM.

My Shop     :D  :iamsohappy:  :dance3:  :yahoo:

Currently Keeping: Camponotus clarithorax, Camponotus hyatti, Tetramorium immigransNylanderia vividula, Liometopum occidentaleCamponotus modoc, Zootermopsis sp.

Wanted: Acromyrmex versicolor, Myrmecocystus sp., Camponotus us-ca02 (vibrant red not dull orange), Prenolepis imparis, Anything else I don't have lol...

Kept Before: Solenopsis molesta, Prenolepis imparis (still got one, but infertile)






Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: camponotus, queen, fertilization, journal, rcbuggy88, partial, wierd, colony, ant, gynandromorphs, gynandromorph

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users