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How Japanese honeybees kill the invading giant hornet


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#1 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted May 4 2020 - 4:25 PM

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So I tried looking up "murder hornet" in Japanese, and all I could find were references to killer bees (the Africanized honeybee).

After some more digging I believe the much-ballyhooed murder hornet is actually called the Giant Sparrow Hornet/Wasp in Japanese ( https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/オオスズメバチ   for anyone interested). Normal hornets are called sparrow hornets/wasps anyway (Japanese doesn't really distinguish in the base word "hachi" among bees, wasps, and hornets). People are making jokes about the giant hornet in America now, but in Japan they are apparently the number one cause of wildlife-triggered death. It's only funny as long as your family isn't the one that draws the short straw.

 

But I did find this article about how Asian honeybees (Apis cerana according to the above wiki article) have developed a defense against the hornet, something the European A. mellifera cannot do: cooking the scouts. This is really, really cool. Check out the Nat Geo video embedded in this article for how they signal each other, etc. 

 

EDIT: Speaking of which, apparently the giant hornet starts up a warning rattling sound in their nest when an intruder comes too close. If you hear what looks like a hornet nest rattling, stay far away.

 

https://www.foxnews....r-hornet-report


Edited by OhNoNotAgain, May 4 2020 - 4:33 PM.

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Veromessor pergandei x2

Veromessor andrei

Camponotus fragilis

Camponotus sansabeanus

Tetramorium x2 (No I didn't want 2 colonies ... long story)

Prenolepis imparis queens in tubes

Termitat: Zootermopsis angusticollis

And bunches of isopods (various Armadillidium, C. murina, P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, V. parvus) and hordes of springtails

 


#2 Offline PacificNorthWestern - Posted May 4 2020 - 7:33 PM

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I swear, if I see one of these hornets anywhere near where I live...



#3 Offline ponerinecat - Posted May 5 2020 - 8:02 AM

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Ill keep it as a specimen. Would be a cool find.



#4 Online NickAnter - Posted May 5 2020 - 8:14 AM

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I would blowtorch(we have a giant one) it, and their nest if possible.


Colonies:Nylanderia vividula, Lasius cf. americanus,
Founding queens: Camponotus hyatti/sayi, Temnothorax nevadensis, Brachymyrmex patagonicus, Pheidole navigans.

 

Species I would like to acquire soon(as in 2-5 months): Hypoponera species, Camponotus species that is not in the Myrmentoma subgenus, Solenopsis molesta, Pogonomyrmex californicus, Temnothorax nevadensis(to restart), Manica invidia, Myrmica sp., Crematogaster sp., Acanthomyops, Lasius brevicornis, Formica argentea, Formica aserva, Leptothorax sp., Formica perpilosa, and Tetramorium immigrans.

About 10 of those species I have already caught queens of before, and likely will again.

 

         A good quote to think about.  Be a shepherd, not a sheep.


#5 Online AntsDakota - Posted May 5 2020 - 8:42 AM

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I probably wouldn't go anywhere near the nest, and call pest control.


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#6 Offline ponerinecat - Posted May 5 2020 - 8:47 AM

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I would blowtorch(we have a giant one) it, and their nest if possible.

And that's how to get killed. Too many stings can literally cause heart failure. No need to disturb them at all.



#7 Online NickAnter - Posted May 5 2020 - 9:05 AM

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Notice I said if possible. If it was a large nest, I would never do that. Only if it was a queen and like 2 workers.


Colonies:Nylanderia vividula, Lasius cf. americanus,
Founding queens: Camponotus hyatti/sayi, Temnothorax nevadensis, Brachymyrmex patagonicus, Pheidole navigans.

 

Species I would like to acquire soon(as in 2-5 months): Hypoponera species, Camponotus species that is not in the Myrmentoma subgenus, Solenopsis molesta, Pogonomyrmex californicus, Temnothorax nevadensis(to restart), Manica invidia, Myrmica sp., Crematogaster sp., Acanthomyops, Lasius brevicornis, Formica argentea, Formica aserva, Leptothorax sp., Formica perpilosa, and Tetramorium immigrans.

About 10 of those species I have already caught queens of before, and likely will again.

 

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#8 Online AntsDakota - Posted May 5 2020 - 9:22 AM

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I would blowtorch(we have a giant one) it, and their nest if possible.

And that's how to get killed. Too many stings can literally cause heart failure. No need to disturb them at all.

 

 

I probably wouldn't go anywhere near the nest, and call pest control.

And this is how to not get killed.........


Edited by AntsDakota, May 5 2020 - 9:22 AM.

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#9 Offline zantezaint - Posted May 10 2020 - 4:34 PM

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Amazing video. Getting barbecued alive is one way to go...


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#10 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted May 11 2020 - 9:15 PM

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I really liked how the bees coordinated with each other. Like "Ready ... on your marks ... get set ...."

Oh and then one of them is like, "I can't wait any more. Charrrgge!"


Edited by OhNoNotAgain, May 11 2020 - 9:20 PM.

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Veromessor pergandei x2

Veromessor andrei

Camponotus fragilis

Camponotus sansabeanus

Tetramorium x2 (No I didn't want 2 colonies ... long story)

Prenolepis imparis queens in tubes

Termitat: Zootermopsis angusticollis

And bunches of isopods (various Armadillidium, C. murina, P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, V. parvus) and hordes of springtails

 





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