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#1 Offline Aliallaie - Posted April 12 2020 - 12:21 PM

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Hello everyone 

I purchased Pogonomyrmex queen with brood from tar geel ants in October 2019. Since then until now they are only 8. And 2 larvae’s. I’ve been feeding them with seeds they’ve never been without food or water. Is this normal? I’ve seen photos of them with lots of brood and workers but mine don’t seem to lay eggs much. Please let me know. 



#2 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted April 12 2020 - 12:46 PM

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Are you heating them? Apparently they grow very slowly at room temperature.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#3 Offline Aliallaie - Posted April 12 2020 - 4:21 PM

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Are you heating them? Apparently they grow very slowly at room temperature.

They’re at 85 degree. It’s a small heater. I’ve had them by this heater since I got them



#4 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted April 12 2020 - 4:38 PM

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Hmm......... perhaps you should email THA. He knows a good deal about these colonies.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#5 Offline zantezaint - Posted April 14 2020 - 10:31 AM

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Seeds are only half measures. Try fruit flies as well. Make sure they actually like the type of seeds they are receiving, and that the seeds are not too big for the workers that are still in the early stages of the colony.


Edited by zantezaint, April 14 2020 - 10:35 AM.

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4 x Solenopsis xyloni (Fire ant) colonies.

2 x Veromessor andrei (Seed-harvester ant) colonies.

19 x Pogonomyrmex subnitidus (Seed-harvester ant) colonies + 3 x Pogonomyrmex (ID uncertain) colonies

16 x Linepithema humile (Argentine ant) colonies.

1 x Unknown Formicidae colony.

1 x Tapinoma sessile (Odorous house ant) colony.

1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

1 x Solenopsis molesta (Thief ant) colony.


#6 Offline Manitobant - Posted April 14 2020 - 7:05 PM

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Same thing is happening with my messor (not from THA tho)

Edited by Manitobant, April 14 2020 - 7:06 PM.


#7 Offline Aliallaie - Posted April 15 2020 - 11:25 AM

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Seeds are only half measures. Try fruit flies as well. Make sure they actually like the type of seeds they are receiving, and that the seeds are not too big for the workers that are still in the early stages of the colony.

I threw in a few meal worm pieces hopefully I see a change. 


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#8 Offline Manitobant - Posted April 15 2020 - 1:12 PM

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Did you hibernate them? They may be from a hibernating population.

#9 Offline Aliallaie - Posted April 15 2020 - 1:24 PM

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Did you hibernate them? They may be from a hibernating population.

No I didn’t hibernate them because Mac from THA said I shouldn’t. Especially that they’re a young colony the cold would have killed them. 



#10 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted April 15 2020 - 1:27 PM

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Did you hibernate them? They may be from a hibernating population.

No I didn’t hibernate them because Mac from THA said I shouldn’t. Especially that they’re a young colony the cold would have killed them. 

 

Mac hibernated some of his. He said it on his website. He also said they weren't sure if those particular colonies required hibernation or not.

 

Tar Heel Ants Pogonomyrmex occidentalis Guide


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica cf. pallidefulva, cf. incerta, cf. argentea

Formica cf. aserva, cf. subintegra

Pheidole bicarinata

Myrmica sp.

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis


#11 Offline Aliallaie - Posted April 15 2020 - 5:30 PM

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Did you hibernate them? They may be from a hibernating population.

No I didn’t hibernate them because Mac from THA said I shouldn’t. Especially that they’re a young colony the cold would have killed them. 

 

Mac hibernated some of his. He said it on his website. He also said they weren't sure if those particular colonies required hibernation or not.

 

Tar Heel Ants Pogonomyrmex occidentalis Guide

 

Oh ok. Hmmm... I’m not sure what to do now. 



#12 Offline Manitobant - Posted April 16 2020 - 8:45 AM

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Did you hibernate them? They may be from a hibernating population.

No I didn’t hibernate them because Mac from THA said I shouldn’t. Especially that they’re a young colony the cold would have killed them.
Mac hibernated some of his. He said it on his website. He also said they weren't sure if those particular colonies required hibernation or not.

Tar Heel Ants Pogonomyrmex occidentalis Guide
Oh ok. Hmmm... I’m not sure what to do now.
Just stick em in the fridge for about a month, or maybe longer though I'm not sure if that's good this late in the season.

Edited by Manitobant, April 16 2020 - 8:48 AM.





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