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[PurdueEntomology]

What is it?

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[TheMicroPlanet]

Looks kind of like something in the same subfamily as Discothyrea and Proceratium.

[TheMicroPlanet]

Do you have a side picture? That'd be extremely helpful.

 

I think this might be Discothyrea.

Edited by TheMicroPlanet, April 17 2020 - 4:23 AM.

[PurdueEntomology]

no unfortunately not

[TheMicroPlanet]

Wait, are you asking for an actual ID or is this a test?

[PurdueEntomology]

It was collected at 35.4663520 N, 83.4613878 W, elevation 2444 feet in a mesic forest of mixed oak and tulip on a south facing sloped ridge 

[PurdueEntomology]

Wait, are you asking for an actual ID or is this a test?

Ha! yeah, just wanting so see who would figure it out.  Good job, did not take you but a few moments.  The clubbed antennae are the give away. 

[TheMicroPlanet]

 

Wait, are you asking for an actual ID or is this a test?

Ha! yeah, just wanting so see who would figure it out.  Good job, did not take you but a few moments.  The clubbed antennae are the give away. 

 

[ForestDragon]

Discothyrea testacea is my best guess, due to it being in north carolina, the proceratium don't have antennae that have clubs as pronounced

I just looked through the proceratium and similar genys in north carolina, saw the clubbs NOEP not proceratium, and I also saw you post about these guys before but I couldn't remeber what you said they were lol

[PurdueEntomology]

I found these photos today on my canon and just uploaded them and thought, oh well what the heck, let's have some fun

[ForestDragon]

it was fun, I like seeing those uncommon and cryptic species, my strumigenys are doing well from what I believe, actively foraging and such, and they ignore springtails that walk by them every once and a while so I assume they are well fed lol ima put in some more springtails to boost the population a bit so I can guarantee they are being fed,

[PurdueEntomology]

it was fun, I like seeing those uncommon and cryptic species, my strumigenys are doing well from what I believe, actively foraging and such, and they ignore springtails that walk by them every once and a while so I assume they are well fed lol ima put in some more springtails to boost the population a bit so I can guarantee they are being fed,

My Strumigenys colony has been feasting on my colony of Isotomid collembola since last year, I just aspirate some in and close the lid.  

[ForestDragon]

 

it was fun, I like seeing those uncommon and cryptic species, my strumigenys are doing well from what I believe, actively foraging and such, and they ignore springtails that walk by them every once and a while so I assume they are well fed lol ima put in some more springtails to boost the population a bit so I can guarantee they are being fed,

My Strumigenys colony has been feasting on my colony of Isotomid collembola since last year, I just aspirate some in and close the lid.  

 

there are these big black springtails I find under bark on rottong logs and I wonder if they will eat or attempt to hunt them, they look like podura aquatica, and I do find them in humid sections of wood, but the ones I'm seeing are too long, they are as large as the strumigenys I have, if not larger

[PurdueEntomology]

 

 

it was fun, I like seeing those uncommon and cryptic species, my strumigenys are doing well from what I believe, actively foraging and such, and they ignore springtails that walk by them every once and a while so I assume they are well fed lol ima put in some more springtails to boost the population a bit so I can guarantee they are being fed,

My Strumigenys colony has been feasting on my colony of Isotomid collembola since last year, I just aspirate some in and close the lid.  

 

there are these big black springtails I find under bark on rottong logs and I wonder if they will eat or attempt to hunt them, they look like podura aquatica, and I do find them in humid sections of wood, but the ones I'm seeing are too long, they are as large as the strumigenys I have, if not larger

 

Send a pic, I had an intense taxonomy class last semester and we had to know our collembola well, so perhaps we could figure out the family and maybe genus, but the Isotomid(ae) I feed them are usually the nymphs are consumed.

[AntsDakota]

I found these photos today on my canon and just uploaded them and thought, oh well what the heck, let's have some fun

Oh good. Because if you were keeping Discothyrea and weren’t telling anyone about it..............

[PurdueEntomology]

 

I found these photos today on my canon and just uploaded them and thought, oh well what the heck, let's have some fun

Oh good. Because if you were keeping Discothyrea and weren’t telling anyone about it..............

 

Well I did try but was unsuccessful as I could not get a small enough sized spider egg for them, so I will not try them again unless I was already certain of having a food source.  Definitely a wonderful find but needs preparation before trying to culture.  I am currently working on culturing different spiders.  

Edited by PurdueEntomology, April 17 2020 - 6:45 AM.

[AntsDakota]

Be sure to make a journal.

[ponerinecat]

 

 

 

it was fun, I like seeing those uncommon and cryptic species, my strumigenys are doing well from what I believe, actively foraging and such, and they ignore springtails that walk by them every once and a while so I assume they are well fed lol ima put in some more springtails to boost the population a bit so I can guarantee they are being fed,

My Strumigenys colony has been feasting on my colony of Isotomid collembola since last year, I just aspirate some in and close the lid.  

 

there are these big black springtails I find under bark on rottong logs and I wonder if they will eat or attempt to hunt them, they look like podura aquatica, and I do find them in humid sections of wood, but the ones I'm seeing are too long, they are as large as the strumigenys I have, if not larger

 

Send a pic, I had an intense taxonomy class last semester and we had to know our collembola well, so perhaps we could figure out the family and maybe genus, but the Isotomid(ae) I feed them are usually the nymphs are consumed.

 

Unlikely to be Podura aquatica, they are mostly found near water as the name suggests. Likely Tomoceridae if shiny, or maybe Entomobryidae if covered in hair. However, if they are wrinkly and bean shaped similar to podura, they are almost certainly Neanuridae of some sort.

there's also a chance of Isotomidae but those are usually soil dwelling.

[ForestDragon]

 

 

 

 

it was fun, I like seeing those uncommon and cryptic species, my strumigenys are doing well from what I believe, actively foraging and such, and they ignore springtails that walk by them every once and a while so I assume they are well fed lol ima put in some more springtails to boost the population a bit so I can guarantee they are being fed,

My Strumigenys colony has been feasting on my colony of Isotomid collembola since last year, I just aspirate some in and close the lid.  

 

there are these big black springtails I find under bark on rottong logs and I wonder if they will eat or attempt to hunt them, they look like podura aquatica, and I do find them in humid sections of wood, but the ones I'm seeing are too long, they are as large as the strumigenys I have, if not larger

 

Send a pic, I had an intense taxonomy class last semester and we had to know our collembola well, so perhaps we could figure out the family and maybe genus, but the Isotomid(ae) I feed them are usually the nymphs are consumed.

 

Unlikely to be Podura aquatica, they are mostly found near water as the name suggests. Likely Tomoceridae if shiny, or maybe Entomobryidae if covered in hair. However, if they are wrinkly and bean shaped similar to podura, they are almost certainly Neanuridae of some sort.

there's also a chance of Isotomidae but those are usually soil dwelling.

 

yeah I know they arent Podura aquatica they just had the wrinkly bean shape i just had no way to describe it so I found a pic with a similar looking species

[ponerinecat]

Then its a neanurid or some other poduromorpha.

Any hairs on the body, or any little tuber like things poking out of the skin?