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#1 Offline M_Ants - Posted March 19 2020 - 8:22 PM

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I know that a lot of species need hibernation in order to be successful. Do ants in southern California need hibernation? If so, what is the best way to go about doing so? Is their anyway to avoid fridge hibernation?


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#2 Offline Broncos - Posted March 20 2020 - 5:36 AM

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I know that a lot of species need hibernation in order to be successful. Do ants in southern California need hibernation? If so, what is the best way to go about doing so? Is their anyway to avoid fridge hibernation?

No normally ants in Southern California don’t need hibernation unless they get extremely cold temperatures where they are from. Tall mountains for example.


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#3 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted March 20 2020 - 6:10 AM

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I was thinking about starting a topic like this because I had some questions too, so thanks for making this topic:) I think Broncos answered your question, by the way M_Ants ;) Ok, so I live in South Dakota, and it gets very cold here, and with my colony for the past 3 winters I have not hibernated them. I did this because they were in a test tube and I didn't want the cotton ball in there to freeze and water come out and flood the ants. Now, they are in a mini hearth, and now I feel more comfortable hibernating them. But, I know hibernating can be dangerous for the ants. So, is it possible to never hibernate the ants? I know it's better for them if they are hibernated though... if I do hibernate them, have any tips, just like what M_Ants said?


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#4 Offline AntsDakota - Posted March 20 2020 - 6:14 AM

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The ants will do much better if they are hibernated. And besides- they don’t need to go in the garage. A refrigerator should work just fine.
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#5 Offline Thunder_Birds - Posted March 20 2020 - 7:33 AM

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Awesome, thanks.


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#6 Offline AntsDakota - Posted March 20 2020 - 9:26 AM

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No problem.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version


#7 Offline M_Ants - Posted March 20 2020 - 10:38 AM

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I was thinking about buying Camponotus Vicinus from Badant. He says he caught the queen in Big Bear so I'm assuming they need hibernation?


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#8 Offline NickAnter - Posted March 20 2020 - 10:46 AM

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I was thinking about buying Camponotus Vicinus from Badant. He says he caught the queen in Big Bear so I'm assuming they need hibernation?

Yes. They would. As a rule of thumb, most areas that get a decent amount of snow in the winter hibernate.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#9 Offline M_Ants - Posted March 20 2020 - 11:27 AM

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Yep. Not for me then. Don't have the patience. :)


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#10 Offline NickAnter - Posted March 20 2020 - 11:52 AM

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I actually kind of like it. It means you can look forward to something else besides speing break, as well as the fact that it gives you a break which allows you to put more focus into colonies thay are active year round.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#11 Offline Broncos - Posted March 20 2020 - 11:59 AM

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Yep. Not for me then. Don't have the patience. :)

Pogonomyrmex is a good species because they are very hard workers and most don’t hibernate.


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#12 Offline AntsDakota - Posted March 20 2020 - 12:07 PM

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Except some occidentalis. They’re actually quite prevalent in the arid regions of South Dakota.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version


#13 Offline M_Ants - Posted March 20 2020 - 12:58 PM

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Yeah if I actually could find queens and had other colonies to enjoy that didn't hibernate I wouldn't mind.


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