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ID Request - NY,USA 18/01/2020


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#1 Offline Skwiggledork - Posted January 18 2020 - 6:58 AM

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Location of collection: Under a rotting stick on a small piece of grass in a parking lot.

 

Date of collection: 23/05/2018
 

Length: 13mm
 

Coloration, hue, pattern and texture: Mostly black fading in to red on the legs and joints between body/head
 

Nest description: founding queen under a rotting stick

 

I've been calling it a Camponotus chromaiodes queen, but it has passed away and I am going to preserve it, so I want to confirm my guess. She laid a decent batch of workers the first year I had her, then the brood stopped developing after hibernation and she lost most of the workers in 2019. Pulled her from hibernation this year and hadn't seen any workers foraging. It's been about a week and the last two workers dragged her out of the nest.

 

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#2 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 18 2020 - 7:13 AM

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Formica, maybe? The abdomen looks to short of camponotus.


Edited by TheMicroPlanet, January 18 2020 - 7:14 AM.


#3 Offline PacificNorthWestern - Posted January 18 2020 - 7:21 AM

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Formica, maybe? The abdomen looks to short of camponotus.

no, not formica



#4 Offline PacificNorthWestern - Posted January 18 2020 - 7:22 AM

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I think your right on the ID, camponotus chromaiodes, but I'm not sure as I don't have any experience with them


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#5 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 18 2020 - 7:25 AM

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I'm just going to quit responding to ID requests. I'm obviously no help.



#6 Offline Broncos - Posted January 18 2020 - 7:42 AM

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It looks like some sort of camponotus.


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#7 Offline Martialis - Posted January 18 2020 - 7:46 AM

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Camponotus chromaiodes

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#8 Offline Skwiggledork - Posted January 18 2020 - 7:47 AM

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TheMicroPlanet- Based on

http://www.myrmecos....and-camponotus/

 

I would bet on it being a camponotus, but I'm iffy about the species.


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#9 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 18 2020 - 7:54 AM

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TheMicroPlanet- Based on

http://www.myrmecos....and-camponotus/

 

I would bet on it being a camponotus, but I'm iffy about the species.

Formica and Camponotus queens look very similar - workers are easy to differentiate.



#10 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted January 18 2020 - 8:14 AM

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Camponotus chromaiodes no doubt.
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#11 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 18 2020 - 10:26 AM

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TheMicroPlanet- Based on

http://www.myrmecos....and-camponotus/

 

I would bet on it being a camponotus, but I'm iffy about the species.

Formica and Camponotus queens look very similar - workers are easy to differentiate.

 

Similar, but still have marked differences. Head shape and thorax shape are the easiest. Camponotus is boxy, Formica round.



#12 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 18 2020 - 10:27 AM

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If anything, queens are easier to diffrenciate, especially since a lot of photos are poor quality and whether or not the thorax is humped is hard to say.



#13 Offline Broncos - Posted January 18 2020 - 12:25 PM

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Camponotus chromaiodes no doubt.

Yes I agree


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#14 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted January 18 2020 - 3:10 PM

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C. chromaiodes gets my vote.


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#15 Offline AntsDakota - Posted January 18 2020 - 4:27 PM

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Camponotus chromaiodes. The head is much too large and 'square shaped' for Formica. Perhaps the reason why the gaster looks so small is because it's dead.


Edited by AntsDakota, January 18 2020 - 4:29 PM.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version


#16 Offline TheMicroPlanet - Posted January 18 2020 - 5:06 PM

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I'll take this as a learning opportunity...






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