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Blue Mountains, NSW, Australia - 23/12/2019


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#1 Offline P0rcelain - Posted December 22 2019 - 11:55 PM

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two ants, found in the same location. backyard of my home.

one is semi claustral and the other is fully claustral.

 

SEMI CLAUSTRAL
Date of collection: 14th Octobor
Habitat of collection: Temperate eucalypt forest, mountainous w/ valleys.

Biome specifics: Lots of leaves, concrete tiles with other invertebrates living in the cracks. Poor soil quality with lots of clay and some fine dirt/sand.
Length (from head to gaster): approximately 5-7mm. unsure of how to measure.
Color, hue, pattern and texture: Solid black.
Distinguishing characteristics: Single, pointed petiole in the shape of a knife, large to medium sized head with antennae that are twice as long.
Distinguishing behavior: Very erratic and full of energy. Runs from one side of the tube to the other when disturbed. Drags food into her tube where she tears it apart and places it in front of the larvae, who curl over to eat it themselves.
Nest description: No nest has been found as of writing. Colony is still in founding.

Nuptial flight time and date: Midday, October. Date of collection.

Photos (unedited):

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Photos (my physiological understanding):

(this is just what i see, and it is quite likely i have messed this up somehow. but i have decided to do it anyway since the image quality is barely serviceable)

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i struggled to figure out where the segments on each antenna were but i think i have it vaguely figured out, and it is reassuring that each time i came up around 9ish.

i can definitely say with confidence that she has a 3 segmented club.

 

 

FULLY CLAUSTRAL
Date of collection: 15th Octobor
Habitat of collection: Temperate eucalypt forest, mountainous w/ valleys.

Biome specifics: Lots of leaves, concrete tiles with other invertebrates living in the cracks. Poor soil quality with lots of clay and some fine dirt/sand.
Length (from head to gaster): approximately 4-5mm.
Color, hue, pattern and texture: Very deep brown; Deep brownish black with brown tips of legs and antennae; Black with brown hue.
Distinguishing characteristics: Very fat and swollen gaster, small head, long antennae and stubbier legs.
Distinguishing behavior: Very timid. Moves very little. Has been observed frequently cleaning and rearranging eggs. Feeds workers (2-3mm in size) through trophallaxis despite never being fed (fully claustral). Sluggish.
Nest description: No nest has been found as of writing. Colony is still in founding.

Nuptial flight time and date: Midday, October. Date of collection.

Photos (unedited):

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no edited images for this girl. i am afraid the images were too unclear to distinguish anything new by just raising contrast.

if it is needed or wanted, i will make an attempt.

i will also provide with new photos next time i am checking on the ants. it may be a few days yet.


Edited by P0rcelain, December 23 2019 - 12:02 AM.


#2 Offline P0rcelain - Posted December 23 2019 - 12:10 AM

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probably should had mentioned: semi claustral queen has so far eaten and fed her brood with fruit flies and larger insects (much larger than her) with no qualms whatsoever. in fact, feeding her the larger insect is how i discovered her behaviour of dragging food into the tube to dismember it. she leaves stray bits of insect everywhere as you can see in the photos.


Edited by P0rcelain, December 23 2019 - 12:11 AM.


#3 Offline Manitobant - Posted December 23 2019 - 9:07 AM

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Queen 1 is notoncus sp

Queen 2 is nylanderia sp

#4 Offline P0rcelain - Posted December 23 2019 - 2:55 PM

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Queen 1 is notoncus sp

Queen 2 is nylanderia sp

so, in the first one, i think people have come to this conclusion enough that it is definitely notoncus sp.

the above video has caused a lot of confusion for me until today where i have searched what 'sp' means in taxonomy.

turns out it means 'multiple species' aka. this ant belongs to this genus but we have no idea what it is.

this video talks about notoncus sp like it is an actual species. which was confusing to me because my ants look exactly the same if not very similar to his.

and the eye placement is not the same as notoncus capitatus, the only other solid black species in notoncus with a similar body structure that i am aware of.

am i correct in coming to the conclusion that this species that i have is currently unidentified? clearly not undiscovered, since people know it exists.

but it seems it does not have an actual latin name yet.

 

now for the second one. I think you just mean that because you are not sure what species of nylanderia it is.

but i feel the need to clarify whether or not that is the case just because of the utter mess which is 'notoncus sp' in the ant keeping community.



#5 Offline Formicoidea - Posted December 23 2019 - 7:01 PM

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Queen 1 is notoncus sp

Queen 2 is nylanderia sp

so, in the first one, i think people have come to this conclusion enough that it is definitely notoncus sp.

the above video has caused a lot of confusion for me until today where i have searched what 'sp' means in taxonomy.

turns out it means 'multiple species' aka. this ant belongs to this genus but we have no idea what it is.

this video talks about notoncus sp like it is an actual species. which was confusing to me because my ants look exactly the same if not very similar to his.

and the eye placement is not the same as notoncus capitatus, the only other solid black species in notoncus with a similar body structure that i am aware of.

am i correct in coming to the conclusion that this species that i have is currently unidentified? clearly not undiscovered, since people know it exists.

but it seems it does not have an actual latin name yet.

 

now for the second one. I think you just mean that because you are not sure what species of nylanderia it is.

but i feel the need to clarify whether or not that is the case just because of the utter mess which is 'notoncus sp' in the ant keeping community.

 

sp. always means it is unknown.

There are no ants who have *RandomGenus* sp.


Current Queens/Colonies:

- Iridomyrmex Bicknelli                          - Iridomyrmex Sp. (x2)

- Camponotus Consobrinus                - Camponotus Sp.

- Myrmecia Sp.                                        - Rhytidoponera Metallica

- Rhytidoponera victoriae                       - Notoncus Sp. (x2)

- Anonychomyrma Cf. Froggatti (x6)


#6 Offline Manitobant - Posted December 23 2019 - 7:31 PM

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Queen 1 is notoncus sp
Queen 2 is nylanderia sp

so, in the first one, i think people have come to this conclusion enough that it is definitely notoncus sp.

the above video has caused a lot of confusion for me until today where i have searched what 'sp' means in taxonomy.
turns out it means 'multiple species' aka. this ant belongs to this genus but we have no idea what it is.
this video talks about notoncus sp like it is an actual species. which was confusing to me because my ants look exactly the same if not very similar to his.
and the eye placement is not the same as notoncus capitatus, the only other solid black species in notoncus with a similar body structure that i am aware of.
am i correct in coming to the conclusion that this species that i have is currently unidentified? clearly not undiscovered, since people know it exists.
but it seems it does not have an actual latin name yet.

now for the second one. I think you just mean that because you are not sure what species of nylanderia it is.
but i feel the need to clarify whether or not that is the case just because of the utter mess which is 'notoncus sp' in the ant keeping community.
saying "sp" after a genus name means that the ant has been identified as a member of that genus, but we personally don't know the exact species. For example, nylanderia sp means that the ant is one of the 147 species in the genus nylanderia.

Edited by Manitobant, December 23 2019 - 7:33 PM.


#7 Offline P0rcelain - Posted December 23 2019 - 11:00 PM

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ok

i still think that my notoncus does not look much like any of the 6 notoncus species i am aware of though.

maybe i will try getting in touch with a university once the colony is more established.






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