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Are these springtails?


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#1 Offline Broncos - Posted November 5 2019 - 8:56 PM

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I found these little guys a brownish yellowish color.

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#2 Offline Broncos - Posted November 5 2019 - 9:00 PM

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They are so tiny I can’t get a good pic but I will put a photo. They have been hiding under a pile of seeds and loose dirt.


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#3 Offline Broncos - Posted November 5 2019 - 9:07 PM

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#4 Offline Broncos - Posted November 5 2019 - 9:09 PM

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I give up on the photos they are tiny and yellow and brown. They are in large groups with very quick movement.


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#5 Offline mbullock42086 - Posted November 7 2019 - 8:01 PM

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if dry they're likely psocids (bark/booklice)

i intentionally inoculate my desert species with these to keep odors and mold at bay, they are way better than springtails at cleaning, too.

  They don't bite animals like springtails either, every time springtails invaded my enclosures they stressed the queens out and killed eggs 


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#6 Offline Broncos - Posted November 7 2019 - 8:12 PM

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Ok you can see two on the sunflower seeds.


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#7 Offline mbullock42086 - Posted November 7 2019 - 8:18 PM

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yeah psocids.  springs can't tolerate dryness



#8 Offline Broncos - Posted November 7 2019 - 8:20 PM

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yeah psocids. springs can't tolerate dryness

Ok so they are safe to put into enclosures? Do they eat mold or developing mold or bacteria. Sorry I just have no idea what these things are


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#9 Offline ponerinecat - Posted November 7 2019 - 9:34 PM

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They're safe, just populate quickly.


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#10 Offline Broncos - Posted November 8 2019 - 7:23 AM

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Ok thanks!


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#11 Offline Serafine - Posted November 8 2019 - 11:10 AM

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Those could also be dustlice (booklice). If they're moving quickly it's more likely that they're springtails though.


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#12 Offline dspdrew - Posted November 8 2019 - 7:42 PM

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They're Booklice. In your formicarium, they serve the same purpose as springtails, except they live in very dry areas of the nest.
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#13 Offline Dnail - Posted November 8 2019 - 9:44 PM

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if dry they're likely psocids (bark/booklice)

i intentionally inoculate my desert species with these to keep odors and mold at bay, they are way better than springtails at cleaning, too.

  They don't bite animals like springtails either, every time springtails invaded my enclosures they stressed the queens out and killed eggs 

springtails can bite and killed eggs???
i thought they are harmless


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#14 Offline ponerinecat - Posted November 9 2019 - 7:40 PM

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if dry they're likely psocids (bark/booklice)

i intentionally inoculate my desert species with these to keep odors and mold at bay, they are way better than springtails at cleaning, too.

  They don't bite animals like springtails either, every time springtails invaded my enclosures they stressed the queens out and killed eggs 

springtails can bite and killed eggs???
i thought they are harmless

 

they are, not sure how they "bit" eggs. Jaws only really suited for eating decaying matter. Perhaps the eggs molded slightly after the queens got stressed and were eaten.



#15 Offline mbullock42086 - Posted December 5 2019 - 12:53 PM

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if dry they're likely psocids (bark/booklice)

i intentionally inoculate my desert species with these to keep odors and mold at bay, they are way better than springtails at cleaning, too.

  They don't bite animals like springtails either, every time springtails invaded my enclosures they stressed the queens out and killed eggs 

springtails can bite and killed eggs???
i thought they are harmless

 

they are, not sure how they "bit" eggs. Jaws only really suited for eating decaying matter. Perhaps the eggs molded slightly after the queens got stressed and were eaten.

 

 Springtails didn't attack the eggs directly but they interfered by freaking the queen out making her neglect her eggs and not groom them.  HOWEVER that said, they ARE known for attacking amphibia and molting animals. 

Fortunately they're so small its generally superficial though






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