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Strumigenys in Wisconsin

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#1 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted August 30 2019 - 10:19 AM

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I have heard that Strumigenys can be found in Wisconsin, though I have never seen them myself. Which species occur and how might I find them? I have an idea on how to house cryptic ants, basically a large hydrostone nest with lots of small chambers and no outworld, populated by springtails. Of course I actually have to find the appropriate ants before I can test this.


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#2 Offline Ferox_Formicae - Posted August 30 2019 - 10:33 AM

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Strumigenys spp. do not occur in Wisconsin.


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#3 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted August 30 2019 - 10:42 AM

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They don't show up on AntMaps, but AnthonyP163 has found them in Wisconsin. It's not surprising, S. pergandei and others live in almost all the surrounding states, and Wisconsin has very poor documentation of its ant fauna.


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Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis


#4 Offline Ferox_Formicae - Posted August 30 2019 - 11:36 AM

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I get what you mean. South Carolina does to. In fact, I just made a new state record. Pheidole carrolli. I will be sending some preserved specimens to the University of Utah.


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#5 Offline Leo - Posted August 30 2019 - 4:10 PM

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I tend to find strumigenys in rotting logs, near other ant's waste piles (or just rotting logs in general) they seem to prefer wood in advanced stage of decomposition that is also very humid. I once found a 4q 30w colony of strumigenys nesting in a piece pf piping filled with soil, a brachyponera colony was living underneath it, and on the other end of the pipe, a colony of leptogenys,



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I tend to find strumigenys in rotting logs, near other ant's waste piles (or just rotting logs in general) they seem to prefer wood in advanced stage of decomposition that is also very humid. I once found a 4q 30w colony of strumigenys nesting in a piece pf piping filled with soil, a brachyponera colony was living underneath it, and on the other end of the pipe, a colony of leptogenys,

This is why the US is one of the least diverse places for anting, excluding Texas, Florida, and kin.



#7 Offline NickAnter - Posted August 30 2019 - 6:23 PM

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I tend to find strumigenys in rotting logs, near other ant's waste piles (or just rotting logs in general) they seem to prefer wood in advanced stage of decomposition that is also very humid. I once found a 4q 30w colony of strumigenys nesting in a piece pf piping filled with soil, a brachyponera colony was living underneath it, and on the other end of the pipe, a colony of leptogenys,

This is why the US is one of the least diverse places for anting, excluding Texas, Florida, and kin.

 

Yeah, well we have Myrmecocystus!  :D


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#8 Offline Leo - Posted August 30 2019 - 7:48 PM

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I tend to find strumigenys in rotting logs, near other ant's waste piles (or just rotting logs in general) they seem to prefer wood in advanced stage of decomposition that is also very humid. I once found a 4q 30w colony of strumigenys nesting in a piece pf piping filled with soil, a brachyponera colony was living underneath it, and on the other end of the pipe, a colony of leptogenys,

This is why the US is one of the least diverse places for anting, excluding Texas, Florida, and kin.

 

Yeah, well we have Myrmecocystus!  :D

 

And leafcutters!!!



#9 Offline ponerinecat - Posted August 30 2019 - 8:05 PM

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I tend to find strumigenys in rotting logs, near other ant's waste piles (or just rotting logs in general) they seem to prefer wood in advanced stage of decomposition that is also very humid. I once found a 4q 30w colony of strumigenys nesting in a piece pf piping filled with soil, a brachyponera colony was living underneath it, and on the other end of the pipe, a colony of leptogenys,

This is why the US is one of the least diverse places for anting, excluding Texas, Florida, and kin.

 

Yeah, well we have Myrmecocystus!  :D

 

And leafcutters!!!

 

Leafcutters are found elsewhere, but myrmecocystus is certainly unique. Still inferior compared to foreign myrmecines, ponerines, amblyopones, etc. My opinion though.



#10 Offline ForestDragon - Posted August 31 2019 - 5:56 AM

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Yeah the US kinda sucks for antkeeping imo but its fun when you can get a queen, I have found a large colony of strumigenys when I was digging up some formica brood for a parasite I had but I didn't know what they were so I PUT THEM BACK and i have found strumigenys twice near the same nest and to me it seems they like nesting near living trees and in other ant nests



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We also have Pheidole rhea. And abundant Prenolepis.

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


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We also have Pheidole rhea. And abundant Prenolepis.

Penolepsis is kind boring for me, besides being good for winters



#13 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted August 31 2019 - 9:14 AM

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I have heard that Strumigenys can be found in Wisconsin, though I have never seen them myself. Which species occur and how might I find them? I have an idea on how to house cryptic ants, basically a large hydrostone nest with lots of small chambers and no outworld, populated by springtails. Of course I actually have to find the appropriate ants before I can test this.

The Strumigenys I have found have all been underneath rocks or logs, either during light rain or after. They like humidity and moisture. I was told to look for them where springtails are. 

 

Worker specimens that I have sent to Dr. Guenard have been imaged and a match couldn't be found yet. It's a possibility that it's a new species but nothing is for sure yet. 


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#14 Offline ponerinecat - Posted August 31 2019 - 9:15 AM

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I have heard that Strumigenys can be found in Wisconsin, though I have never seen them myself. Which species occur and how might I find them? I have an idea on how to house cryptic ants, basically a large hydrostone nest with lots of small chambers and no outworld, populated by springtails. Of course I actually have to find the appropriate ants before I can test this.

The Strumigenys I have found have all been underneath rocks or logs, either during light rain or after. They like humidity and moisture. I was told to look for them where springtails are. 

 

Worker specimens that I have sent to Dr. Guenard have been imaged and a match couldn't be found yet. It's a possibility that it's a new species but nothing is for sure yet. 

 

That's cool. Tell us when a conclusion is reached



#15 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted August 31 2019 - 1:54 PM

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I have heard that Strumigenys can be found in Wisconsin, though I have never seen them myself. Which species occur and how might I find them? I have an idea on how to house cryptic ants, basically a large hydrostone nest with lots of small chambers and no outworld, populated by springtails. Of course I actually have to find the appropriate ants before I can test this.

The Strumigenys I have found have all been underneath rocks or logs, either during light rain or after. They like humidity and moisture. I was told to look for them where springtails are. 

 

Worker specimens that I have sent to Dr. Guenard have been imaged and a match couldn't be found yet. It's a possibility that it's a new species but nothing is for sure yet. 

 

Oh wow. Did they have long or short mandibles?


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Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis


#16 Offline AntsDakota - Posted August 31 2019 - 1:56 PM

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I tend to find strumigenys in rotting logs, near other ant's waste piles (or just rotting logs in general) they seem to prefer wood in advanced stage of decomposition that is also very humid. I once found a 4q 30w colony of strumigenys nesting in a piece pf piping filled with soil, a brachyponera colony was living underneath it, and on the other end of the pipe, a colony of leptogenys,

This is why the US is one of the least diverse places for anting, excluding Texas, Florida, and kin.

 

Yeah, well we have Myrmecocystus!  :D

 

And leafcutters!!!

 

Leafcutters are found elsewhere, but myrmecocystus is certainly unique. Still inferior compared to foreign myrmecines, ponerines, amblyopones, etc. My opinion though.

 

Myrmecocystus may be unique, yet 'honey pot ants' can be found elsewhere.


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#17 Offline AntsDakota - Posted August 31 2019 - 1:58 PM

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I tend to find strumigenys in rotting logs, near other ant's waste piles (or just rotting logs in general) they seem to prefer wood in advanced stage of decomposition that is also very humid. I once found a 4q 30w colony of strumigenys nesting in a piece pf piping filled with soil, a brachyponera colony was living underneath it, and on the other end of the pipe, a colony of leptogenys,

This is why the US is one of the least diverse places for anting, excluding Texas, Florida, and kin.

 

What about Arizona and California?


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#18 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted August 31 2019 - 2:04 PM

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The U.S. isn't bad for anting, I love the ants I can find in my state!


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Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis


#19 Offline AntsDakota - Posted August 31 2019 - 2:10 PM

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Yeah. Stigmatomma is SOO boring. (n)


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#20 Offline AntsDakota - Posted August 31 2019 - 2:14 PM

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Europe is pretty much the same as here, so we're not the only ones who have 'bad anting'.


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