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Are Formica Pacifica polygenus?


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#1 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted November 24 2017 - 6:50 PM

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Exactly what the title says, are they?

 


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#2 Offline FeedTheAnts - Posted November 25 2017 - 5:51 PM

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I've done some research and can't come up with anything :ugone2far:. Most Formica are polygynous and chances are these would be. It turns out they are in the Fusca Group, I'm not sure if that has any importance though.


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#3 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted November 25 2017 - 6:41 PM

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Thanks,  the reason I ask is, I have several test tubes with two queens. This helps a lot because F. fusca and many others in the fusca group are polygynous.  :D  ;)  (y)


Thanks for doing the research too!



#4 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted November 26 2017 - 12:40 PM

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General rule of thumb for polygyny- if it's your first queens that you've ever caught, don't risk it. I have never heard of formica being polygynous but this might be an exception. It would be AWESOME to see a massive polygynous formica pacifica colony, though!
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Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#5 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted November 26 2017 - 1:22 PM

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No, this is my second year ant keeping. And there is a massive colony of these ants in my yard. I have around 15 queens of these alone. one colony has 155 workers. :D  List of all my ants in the ant keeping census.



#6 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted November 26 2017 - 5:12 PM

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No, this is my second year ant keeping. And there is a massive colony of these ants in my yard. I have around 15 queens of these alone. one colony has 155 workers. :D List of all my ants in the ant keeping census.

Nice. If so, go for it but try two queens and see how they do. If they seem to cooperate, yay! If not, it might be better to keep them seperate. For polygyny, you can try a couppe methods- place a test tube covered with red foil or aluminum foil and place it in a tube and introduce the queens so they can "discover" the test tube setup and hopefully cooperate. You could also try making a big test tube setup and placing the queens one at a time, then cooling the queens and wait a bit, then remove them.

Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#7 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted November 26 2017 - 7:50 PM

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Ok, so should I try to introduce a new queen to a small colony as an experiment? :thinking:



#8 Offline Canadian anter - Posted November 27 2017 - 8:16 AM

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Well, you really can't be sure. People told me that Lasius were pleometrophic or monogyne but mine have been going for 2 years and they're fine with 2 queens even at 2000+ workers


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#9 Offline Serafine - Posted November 27 2017 - 9:15 AM

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The majority of Formica are polygynous, especially the fusca and rufa groups.


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#10 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted November 27 2017 - 1:39 PM

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Question, could I merge two different Formica fusca colonies? :thinking:



#11 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted November 27 2017 - 2:07 PM

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No, but they probably aren't F. fusca either.


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#12 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted November 27 2017 - 6:05 PM

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Why would they not be Fusca?

#13 Offline FeedTheAnts - Posted November 27 2017 - 6:16 PM

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I heard that they are.


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#14 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted November 27 2017 - 6:25 PM

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Me too!




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