Jump to content

  • Chat
  •  
  •  

Welcome to Formiculture.com!

This is a website for anyone interested in Myrmecology and all aspects of finding, keeping, and studying ants. The site and forum are free to use. Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation points to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!

Photo

Ramona, CA. ID Request


  • Please log in to reply
3 replies to this topic

#1 Offline zantezaint - Posted August 7 2020 - 5:19 PM

zantezaint

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 173 posts
  • LocationCalifornia, North San Diego County

1. Ramona, CA.
2. 7/18//2020.
3. Desert sand, grass, shrubs.
4. 9 mm.
5. Red brown all around.
6. No major workers, monomorphic colonies.
7. Move with moderate speed.
8. No mounds at entrance, just holes.

9. 7 P.M.

 

Species guess, but without certainty: Pogonomyrmex, but deciding whether it is a californicus or a subnitidus. The previous ID request turned out to be subnitidus due to spines on the mesosoma (Thank you NickAnter and gcsnelling), and were collected in Carlsbad, but these 3 queens were collected in Ramona, CA, and do not have a spine. What does that leave me with?

 

*Correction: I compared a subnitidus queen with a spine to a queen without a spine, and all three do not have a spine. It is safe to rule out subnitidus.

Attached Images

  • Pogo.JPG
  • IMG_0779.JPG
  • IMG_0778.JPG

Edited by zantezaint, August 7 2020 - 6:43 PM.

https://www.formicul...ale-california/

 

4 x Solenopsis xyloni (Fire ant) colonies.

2 x Veromessor andrei (Seed-harvester ant) colonies.

19 x Pogonomyrmex subnitidus (Seed-harvester ant) colonies + 3 x Pogonomyrmex (ID uncertain) colonies

16 x Linepithema humile (Argentine ant) colonies.

1 x Unknown Formicidae colony.

1 x Tapinoma sessile (Odorous house ant) colony.

1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

1 x Solenopsis molesta (Thief ant) colony.


#2 Offline zantezaint - Posted August 7 2020 - 6:44 PM

zantezaint

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 173 posts
  • LocationCalifornia, North San Diego County

All three do not have a spine that subnitidus queens have. What does that leave me with?


https://www.formicul...ale-california/

 

4 x Solenopsis xyloni (Fire ant) colonies.

2 x Veromessor andrei (Seed-harvester ant) colonies.

19 x Pogonomyrmex subnitidus (Seed-harvester ant) colonies + 3 x Pogonomyrmex (ID uncertain) colonies

16 x Linepithema humile (Argentine ant) colonies.

1 x Unknown Formicidae colony.

1 x Tapinoma sessile (Odorous house ant) colony.

1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

1 x Solenopsis molesta (Thief ant) colony.


#3 Offline Aidanthielman - Posted August 7 2020 - 7:43 PM

Aidanthielman

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 59 posts
  • LocationSan Diego California

I’m not great at these but it could be Pogonomyrmex Maricopa or Pogonomyrmex tenuispinus



#4 Offline zantezaint - Posted August 7 2020 - 8:14 PM

zantezaint

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 173 posts
  • LocationCalifornia, North San Diego County
Yeah, I was afraid it could be maricopa as well.

https://www.formicul...ale-california/

 

4 x Solenopsis xyloni (Fire ant) colonies.

2 x Veromessor andrei (Seed-harvester ant) colonies.

19 x Pogonomyrmex subnitidus (Seed-harvester ant) colonies + 3 x Pogonomyrmex (ID uncertain) colonies

16 x Linepithema humile (Argentine ant) colonies.

1 x Unknown Formicidae colony.

1 x Tapinoma sessile (Odorous house ant) colony.

1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

1 x Solenopsis molesta (Thief ant) colony.





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users