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New Queen for founding Pogonomyrmex rugosus


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#1 Offline Pleming - Posted October 3 2017 - 2:09 PM

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Today I had one of my Pogonomyrmex rugosus queens die and leave behind two workers. So I took the two workers and the brood and gave them to one of my Queens that never successfully got her brood going. I chilled them in the fridge for a few min to calm them down before introducing them to each other. When I first put them together they kind of stayed away from each other but there were no signs of aggression. I thought this was a good sign because I accidentally put two of these queens together when i caught them, and immediately they started to show aggression to one another. After about two hours the workers began to groom the queen and I also noticed the queen and a worker doing tropholaxis with one another. I will continue to monitor them. 


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#2 Offline StopSpazzing - Posted October 3 2017 - 3:22 PM

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Oh interesting. Was wondering about this. I'm curious about diff Pogonomyrmex spp and also nanitics while we are on the subject. Thanks for the info!


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#3 Offline 123LordOfAnts123 - Posted October 3 2017 - 3:30 PM

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Pogonomyrmex, in my experience, seems far more accepting than most when it comes to workers from other colonies, even ones far past callow hood. Nevertheless, I've also had workers massacre each other after a day or two of seemingly peaceful coexistence.

Another thing to note is that Pogonomyrmex are incapable of performing trophallaxis. Transfer of nutrients is accomplished by feeding from larvae and through the distribution of trophic eggs laid by workers.

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#4 Offline Pleming - Posted October 3 2017 - 6:12 PM

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Another thing to note is that Pogonomyrmex are incapable of performing trophallaxis. Transfer of nutrients is accomplished by feeding from larvae and through the distribution of trophic eggs laid by workers.

 

Interesting to know. Maybe they were just kissing then  :shout:



#5 Offline StopSpazzing - Posted October 3 2017 - 10:00 PM

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Another thing to note is that Pogonomyrmex are incapable of performing trophallaxis. Transfer of nutrients is accomplished by feeding from larvae and through the distribution of trophic eggs laid by workers.

 

Interesting to know. Maybe they were just kissing then  :shout:

 

Some lesbian ant action over here. Seems plausible. Rule 34


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#6 Offline Pleming - Posted October 4 2017 - 12:12 PM

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Another thing to note is that Pogonomyrmex are incapable of performing trophallaxis. Transfer of nutrients is accomplished by feeding from larvae and through the distribution of trophic eggs laid by workers.

 

Interesting to know. Maybe they were just kissing then  :shout:

 

Some lesbian ant action over here. Seems plausible. Rule 34

 

 

HAHA



#7 Offline Pleming - Posted October 4 2017 - 12:15 PM

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I checked on them today and all the brood were gone. I am guessing the Fail Queen ate them. The two workers are fine and they all seem to be living together normally. 

 

I did catch the queen laying an egg so we will see how that goes.



#8 Offline Pleming - Posted October 15 2017 - 11:49 PM

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It has been two weeks since i introduced the queen to the two workers. They all seem to be doing fine, and a saw a fresh batch if eggs. 



#9 Offline Bryce - Posted October 17 2017 - 4:20 PM

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I used to keep them. They are sort of boring to me I don't enjoy haverster ants that much, But there sting is horrible. I got stung a few times. I would swell up but be ok. My middle boy got stung and his eyes swelled shut and had a rash from head to toe. Be careful these pack a huge punch of venom.

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#10 Offline B2-Bomber-Ants - Posted October 17 2017 - 4:27 PM

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I am having issues with my P. rugosus laying eggs, then they are gone, then around again, I don't know if she is hiding them or eating them and laying new ones. But I have 3 wild colonies nearby and I put a worker from each colony together over a weekend and they are completely accepting with each other. However I don't know if I am willing to put them with my only remaining queen.



#11 Offline Bryce - Posted October 17 2017 - 4:39 PM

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I wouldn't

#12 Offline Pleming - Posted October 23 2017 - 10:37 PM

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I used to keep them. They are sort of boring to me I don't enjoy haverster ants that much, But there sting is horrible. I got stung a few times. I would swell up but be ok. My middle boy got stung and his eyes swelled shut and had a rash from head to toe. Be careful these pack a huge punch of venom.

 

I actually like how aggressive they are, and enjoy them eating seeds over insects. I don't have to worry about forgetting to feed them. That's a crazy story about your boy being stung. Ill try not to get stung. 

 

I am having issues with my P. rugosus laying eggs, then they are gone, then around again, I don't know if she is hiding them or eating them and laying new ones. But I have 3 wild colonies nearby and I put a worker from each colony together over a weekend and they are completely accepting with each other. However I don't know if I am willing to put them with my only remaining queen.

 

She is most likely eating them. During the founding stage this species is very sensitive in my opinion. I would put her in a dark place and heat her up with a cable or pad and don't check on her for weeks. 



#13 Offline B2-Bomber-Ants - Posted November 13 2017 - 3:53 PM

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Interesting, I will try that, Thanks



#14 Offline Ants_Texas - Posted November 13 2017 - 5:35 PM

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Interesting, I will try that, Thanks

My Pogonomyrmex Rugosus queen was an epic fail. You really do need to absolutely not even check up on her but once every 2 weeks. Mine had a single very tiny larva and a few eggs for about a month, and then randomly died.



#15 Offline Pleming - Posted November 13 2017 - 10:41 PM

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Interesting, I will try that, Thanks

My Pogonomyrmex Rugosus queen was an epic fail. You really do need to absolutely not even check up on her but once every 2 weeks. Mine had a single very tiny larva and a few eggs for about a month, and then randomly died.

 

 

Yes, they are very sensitive to light and vibrations. Also random deaths occur. I had two queens die leaving behind workers. I haven't had a death in awhile.



#16 Offline Pleming - Posted November 13 2017 - 10:43 PM

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Also the queen is doing great now. She has eggs and larvae. She has fully excepted the two workers. 

 

I also did this with another queen and she also excepted the worker. 



#17 Offline dspdrew - Posted November 14 2017 - 12:47 AM

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Yeah I do that all the time. It seems with young, small colonies, this works well. I recently sold a colony of P. rugosus that has mostly P. subnitidus workers. The queen wasn't producing until I combined them after the P. subnitidus queen died.






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