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Elko County, NV/ID border 8/22/17; Bonus hitchhiking Mantis

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#1 Offline CallMeCraven - Posted August 25 2017 - 5:20 PM

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1. Location of collection (ie: park/area, city/town, state/province, country). Elko County, right on he NV/ID border, Jarbidge Mountains

2. Date of collection (more important for ID's of queens). 8/22/17
3. Habitat of collection (ie: desert scrub, oak forest, riparian, etc.). Sagebrush steppe,  roughly 7000' elevation
4. Length (to the nearest millimeter or 1/16th of an inch.) 5mm
5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture: Black/dark brown, head and mandible areas dark red.
6. Distinguishing characteristics 2 petiole nodes with small sharp bump on the first node.
7. Anything else distinctive (ie: odor, behavior, characteristics relative to others in the colony, etc.). Caught during a nuptial flight of thousands before a thunderstorm. Four pulled their wings, the rest (roughly 20) do have not. I caught several with drones still attached.
8. Nest description (if you can find the nest, and you're sure it belongs to the ant you collected) (ie: rotted log, volcano-shaped mound of coarse gavel 10cm in diameter, etc.). Could not find.
9 . Pictures

 

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I appreciate any help with the ant, I couldn't offer a lot of info on them as I was workign when they where flying and was doing multiple things. Bonus points for manits ID.


Edited by CallMeCraven, August 25 2017 - 5:21 PM.

Current Colony:

 

4x Camponotus (hyatti?)

 

 

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Harmony with land is like harmony with a friend; you cannot cherish his right hand and chop off his left.

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#2 Offline T.C. - Posted August 25 2017 - 5:29 PM

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Ants look like tetramorium, but late for their flights. The mantis I believe to be Tenodera sinensis.
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#3 Offline CallMeCraven - Posted August 25 2017 - 5:46 PM

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Thanks, that would be disturbing... the survey area is supposed to be some of the most pristine designated wilderness in NV. It would be alright to start at polygenus colony though.


Edited by CallMeCraven, August 25 2017 - 5:49 PM.

Current Colony:

 

4x Camponotus (hyatti?)

 

 

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Harmony with land is like harmony with a friend; you cannot cherish his right hand and chop off his left.

-Aldo Leopold


#4 Offline Leo - Posted August 26 2017 - 12:09 AM

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did you keep the mantis?



#5 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted August 26 2017 - 12:53 AM

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Crematogaster?

My Youtube Channel
https://m.youtube.co...R--GtDfJdaJjWpQ

Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
-Ochetellus Glaber

-Amblyopone Australis


#6 Offline CallMeCraven - Posted August 26 2017 - 11:06 AM

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did you keep the mantis?

No, it was in the back of our truck as we where loading up to go to the field, when I came back outside, it was gone.


Current Colony:

 

4x Camponotus (hyatti?)

 

 

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Harmony with land is like harmony with a friend; you cannot cherish his right hand and chop off his left.

-Aldo Leopold


#7 Offline Martialis - Posted August 26 2017 - 11:51 AM

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Aren't those Tenodera, like, really invasive?


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#8 Offline Jonathan21700 - Posted August 26 2017 - 1:28 PM

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I don't think these are Tetramorium . Somewhat they look a bit like Aphaenogaster and Pheidole also Crematogaster at the same time. 

Can you make some pictures of a queen out of the test tube?


Edited by Jonathan21700, August 26 2017 - 1:30 PM.

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#9 Offline VoidElecent - Posted August 27 2017 - 7:36 AM

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 Crematogaster sp.


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#10 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted August 27 2017 - 7:48 AM

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I agree with Void. They are Crematogaster (they have the signature abdomen and head shape)


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#11 Offline CallMeCraven - Posted August 27 2017 - 10:52 AM

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I don't think these are Tetramorium . Somewhat they look a bit like Aphaenogaster and Pheidole also Crematogaster at the same time. 

Can you make some pictures of a queen out of the test tube?

When some of less fortunate ones start to die, ill take them out and take better pics. Most of them still have their wings so when I open them up they go crazy and try to fly everywhere. I want to leave the four without wings alone for now and see if they start up a colony.

 

I agree with Void. They are Crematogaster (they have the signature abdomen and head shape)

This ID is much more appealing then Tetramorium, considering where i caught the ants. I guess once some of the unmated queens die off I will separate out the survivors into their own tubes.


Current Colony:

 

4x Camponotus (hyatti?)

 

 

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Harmony with land is like harmony with a friend; you cannot cherish his right hand and chop off his left.

-Aldo Leopold






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