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Queen ID with nanitics? Please - 04-17-2016 - Massachusetts, USA


Best Answer Runner12 , April 25 2016 - 8:09 AM

It's Camponotus americanus, subbarbatus is smaller than that. It has a lot of color variation, some are light enough to almost resemble castaneus, some are much darker like yours Go to the full post


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#1 Offline noebl1 - Posted April 17 2016 - 12:23 PM

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Where collected? United States in Massachusetts near Nashua, NH
 
Habitat of collection? Abandoned granite quarry, round chamber about size of a grape under a rock near edge of quarry, no visible connection to surface.  Very Sandy soil.
 
Coloration, hue and pattern? Queen mostly brown, some banding on gaster.  workers/(nanitics ?) brown head and thorax area, yellowish orange translucent gasters
 
Distinguishing characteristics?  yellowish orange translucent gasters on workers
 
Length in millimeters? Queen about 15mm, workers about 8mm
 
There were approximately 4 or 5 workers and some eggs, no pupae.   Very shallow about 2-3" under the rock, grape shaped chamber about 2" by about 3/4" that was not connected to the outside. Workers did not really scatter as expected, when rock was flipped.  One worker picked up small clutch of eggs which made collection easy as walked right into the collection container holding the eggs.
 
 
 
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#2 Offline Mdrogun - Posted April 17 2016 - 12:36 PM

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I know this is Camponotus but I don't know much about them beyond that.


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Currently Keeping:
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Pheidole pilifera

Forelius sp. (Monogynous, bicolored) "Midwestern Forelius"
Crematogaster cerasi

Pheidole bicarinata

Aphaenogaster rudis

Camponotus chromaiodes

Formica sp. (microgena species)

Nylanderia cf. arenivega


#3 Offline noebl1 - Posted April 17 2016 - 1:00 PM

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Thanks for the reply!  Wondering if Camponotus castaneus?  



#4 Offline Mdrogun - Posted April 17 2016 - 1:01 PM

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Thanks for the reply!  Wondering if Camponotus castaneus?  

I am pretty sure that is the ID but without better lighting I am not sure.


Currently Keeping:
Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Pheidole pilifera

Forelius sp. (Monogynous, bicolored) "Midwestern Forelius"
Crematogaster cerasi

Pheidole bicarinata

Aphaenogaster rudis

Camponotus chromaiodes

Formica sp. (microgena species)

Nylanderia cf. arenivega


#5 Offline noebl1 - Posted April 17 2016 - 1:07 PM

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Thanks for the reply!  Wondering if Camponotus castaneus?  

I am pretty sure that is the ID but without better lighting I am not sure.

 

 

 

See if I can get a good shot...  



#6 Offline noebl1 - Posted April 17 2016 - 1:16 PM

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Or maybe a Camponotus americanus? :  Their gasters were very yellowy in the sun... haven't noticed this species really here before. Typically around here a LOT of camponotus pennsylvanicus which tend to invade houses :)

 

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#7 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 17 2016 - 1:35 PM

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If you take the same pictures on top of something dark, you would see a lot more color and detail on the ants.


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#8 Offline drtrmiller - Posted April 17 2016 - 1:45 PM

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There is visible banding, just photos are overly dark.

Camponotus subbarbatus.

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#9 Offline noebl1 - Posted April 17 2016 - 1:48 PM

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Ok, third times the charm with pics?  Able to refocus the macro a bit and used a dark background (thanks for the tip):

 

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#10 Offline noebl1 - Posted April 17 2016 - 2:05 PM

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Banding on gaster is very subtle (she's a lot darker than the workers):

 

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#11 Offline Mdrogun - Posted April 17 2016 - 2:23 PM

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I don't think this is Camponotus castaneus and I don't think it is Camponotus subbarbatus either. I have no idea what species this is.


Currently Keeping:
Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Pheidole pilifera

Forelius sp. (Monogynous, bicolored) "Midwestern Forelius"
Crematogaster cerasi

Pheidole bicarinata

Aphaenogaster rudis

Camponotus chromaiodes

Formica sp. (microgena species)

Nylanderia cf. arenivega


#12 Offline noebl1 - Posted April 17 2016 - 3:08 PM

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Based on some photos and videos online, starting to lean on Camponotus americanus, but definitely not an expert.



#13 Offline Runner12 - Posted April 25 2016 - 8:09 AM   Best Answer

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It's Camponotus americanus, subbarbatus is smaller than that. It has a lot of color variation, some are light enough to almost resemble castaneus, some are much darker like yours

Edited by Runner12, April 25 2016 - 8:10 AM.





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