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Aspirator killing ants?


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#1 Offline Jamiesname - Posted December 18 2017 - 7:12 PM

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Has anyone used an aspirator to collect ants, and have them die a couple days later? I have one colony that partially escaped and the ones I collected with my aspirator are now dead, while the rest are still alive.

#2 Offline AkumaArtist - Posted December 18 2017 - 10:49 PM

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common aspirators kill ants because of deshidratation

there are special aspirators (ant aspirators) that has a less potent aspiration,but still,if you are not fast enough,they also will die for the same reason.



#3 Offline drtrmiller - Posted December 18 2017 - 11:12 PM

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Desiccation, or drying out, is generally only an issue if the aspirator uses a vacuum for suction (as opposed to blowing or sucking by mouth).

More likely, some ants which spray formic acid as a defense may be exposed to a lethal dose after being agitated and then confined in a small aspirator.  If you were providing suction by mouth, you would have noticed a strong vinegar-like odor and possible burning during the collection process.  Blow-type aspirators are likely better suited for these ants.  Another issue with some aspirators is too much suction, resulting in the ants being slammed against the container.


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#4 Offline Serafine - Posted December 19 2017 - 2:56 AM

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More likely, some ants which spray formic acid as a defense may be exposed to a lethal dose after being agitated and then confined in a small aspirator.

Ummm... you don't want to use an aspirator to suck in formicine ants. I know someone who did. First thing he did after he tried was coughing and puking into the woods.


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#5 Offline drtrmiller - Posted December 19 2017 - 3:01 AM

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More likely, some ants which spray formic acid as a defense may be exposed to a lethal dose after being agitated and then confined in a small aspirator.

Ummm... you don't want to use an aspirator to suck in formicine ants. I know someone who did. First thing he did after he tried was coughing and puking into the woods.

 

 

You just repeated what I had already said.




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#6 Offline Serafine - Posted December 19 2017 - 8:49 AM

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Yes, but from the other perspective.


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#7 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted December 19 2017 - 9:26 AM

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More likely, some ants which spray formic acid as a defense may be exposed to a lethal dose after being agitated and then confined in a small aspirator.

Ummm... you don't want to use an aspirator to suck in formicine ants. I know someone who did. First thing he did after he tried was coughing and puking into the woods.

 

I agree. I once used an aspirator with Lasius nearcticus (normally harmless), until the film broke. My mouth tasted like lemons for the rest of the day.


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#8 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted December 19 2017 - 1:02 PM

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I tried using ant aspirator with a myrmica colony and the film broke and worker stung my mouth. I prefer collecting them by hand. Tedious but a bit safer.

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