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Queen (?) ID, Bergen County, New Jersey. 7-27-17


Best Answer Batspiderfish , July 27 2017 - 5:06 PM

Lasius murphyi, a close relative.

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#1 Offline ColKurtz - Posted July 27 2017 - 5:04 PM

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Very much a newbie here.  Found 4 of the following.  I am thinking Lasius latipes.
 
1.  Found out in the open on sidewalk/pavement near elementary school with nearby wooded area in Wyckoff NJ, 7-27.  Time:  around 6pm to 6:15pm
 
2.  Length:  very difficult to measure in test tube as specimens are very active.  That said, 8 to 10mm. A couple are seem slightly longer than the other two
 
3.  Coloration:  brown.   Thorax region darker.
 
4.  Other distinguishing characteristics:   Longer, narrow abdomen.  Legs frequently getting stuck in cotton within the test tube, active.  I did not smell them. 
 
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I sort of hope I am wrong on the ID because I don't think I can raise L. latipes based on what I read.  Thanks for your help!

 

 



#2 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted July 27 2017 - 5:06 PM   Best Answer

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Lasius murphyi, a close relative.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#3 Offline ColKurtz - Posted July 27 2017 - 5:44 PM

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Lasius murphyi, a close relative.

Thank you for your response.  You seem to be the expert on these.  I found your guide (http://www.formicult...cial-parasites/)  after searching for L. murphyi.

 

Based on the pictures, approx size (further attempts at measurement say it is 8-9mm) and the fact I didn't find them under a rock, do you believe these are queens?

 

It would seem I would need to find some Lasius workers in the wild, capture them, and employ one of the methods in your guide.  I read that  L. murphyi is a social parasite of  Lasius neoniger, but I am not sure I can find those.   I think I have an idea of a location of a Lasius colony, but don't know if it is neoniger.  Will any Lasius workers do? 

 

#4 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted July 27 2017 - 6:12 PM

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Lasius murphyi hasn't been kept yet, but I think that more than Lasius neoniger might work. This is a queen.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#5 Offline ColKurtz - Posted July 27 2017 - 6:36 PM

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Well, that would be my luck! Newbie finds queens that have never been successfully kept. I might just release them back were I found them if that is the case. I guess I have a day or two to make a decision.




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