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#1 Offline spytim - Posted May 29 2017 - 2:04 PM

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1. Location of collection Found in my backyard (creek/small ammount of trees) in summerville south carolina
2. Date of collection; 5/29/2017.
3. Habitat of collection: woods/fields
4. Length: measured 8-9 mm best i can give 
5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture:. Black with an almost redish coloration lightly around head and legs it looked like. 
6. Distinguishing characteristics: none i can see 
7. Anything else distinctive: as soon as she was put in test tube calmed right down by cotton and attended to her gaster
8. Nest description none
9 . best pics i could get the cotton is oddly shaped so i can't get a good shot 

https://gyazo.com/a3...44db9741c574ebd

https://gyazo.com/33...9dcf5f314a2aeed

https://gyazo.com/7e...40823c027191dac



#2 Offline Spamdy - Posted May 29 2017 - 2:16 PM

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Formica spp.


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All my colonies are dead. 

 

 Except:

  

  Pogonomyrmex barbatus

  Pheidole obscurithorax

  Pheidole morens


#3 Offline spytim - Posted May 29 2017 - 2:16 PM

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Camponotus spp.

hang on ima double check my measurements 



#4 Offline Spamdy - Posted May 29 2017 - 2:18 PM

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Camponotus spp.

hang on ima double check my measurements 

 

sorry, its Formica too small to be Camponotus, don't mind other posts accidentally started quoting instead of editing.


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All my colonies are dead. 

 

 Except:

  

  Pogonomyrmex barbatus

  Pheidole obscurithorax

  Pheidole morens


#5 Offline spytim - Posted May 29 2017 - 2:24 PM

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Camponotus spp.

hang on ima double check my measurements 

 

sorry, its Formica too small to be Camponotus, don't mind other posts accidentally started quoting instead of editing.

 

then I'm really excited in my three years of anting I've never kept formica! 



#6 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 29 2017 - 3:35 PM

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This is not Formica or Camponotus. Given its size and distinct shape, I would personally go with an ant in the Dolichoderae subfamily; possibly Dorymyrmex spp., likely Dorymyrmex insanus or Dorymyrmex grandulus. You should check the measurements again; if it's significantly smaller, you may want to consider Tapinoma sessile or a Nylanderia species, such as Nylanderia flavipes or Nylanderia terricola.

 

May want to consider a lighter Lasius umbratus group parasite, as well.


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#7 Offline spytim - Posted May 29 2017 - 3:40 PM

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This is not Formica or Camponotus. Given its size and distinct shape, I would personally go with an ant in the Dolichoderae subfamily; possibly Dorymyrmex spp., likely Dorymyrmex insanus or Dorymyrmex grandulus. You should check the measurements again; if it's significantly smaller, you may want to consider Tapinoma sessile or a Nylanderia species, such as Nylanderia flavipes or Nylanderia terricola.

I think the measurements are right? Especially since its about the same size as my lasuis niger queen. 



#8 Offline spytim - Posted May 29 2017 - 3:45 PM

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This is not Formica or Camponotus. Given its size and distinct shape, I would personally go with an ant in the Dolichoderae subfamily; possibly Dorymyrmex spp., likely Dorymyrmex insanus or Dorymyrmex grandulus. You should check the measurements again; if it's significantly smaller, you may want to consider Tapinoma sessile or a Nylanderia species, such as Nylanderia flavipes or Nylanderia terricola.

 

May want to consider a lighter Lasius umbratus group parasite, as well.

I hope not :( I hope it is Formica or one of the ones you mentioned lol XD 



#9 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 29 2017 - 3:55 PM

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This is not Formica or Camponotus. Given its size and distinct shape, I would personally go with an ant in the Dolichoderae subfamily; possibly Dorymyrmex spp., likely Dorymyrmex insanus or Dorymyrmex grandulus. You should check the measurements again; if it's significantly smaller, you may want to consider Tapinoma sessile or a Nylanderia species, such as Nylanderia flavipes or Nylanderia terricola.

 

May want to consider a lighter Lasius umbratus group parasite, as well.

I hope not :( I hope it is Formica or one of the ones you mentioned lol XD 

 

The round pronotum with the larger mandibles and bulkier legs do, unfortunately, point to Lasius umbratus or an umbratus group parasite.



#10 Offline Spamdy - Posted May 29 2017 - 3:56 PM

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Lasius does match up now, sorry, Lasius and Formica are extremely similar.


All my colonies are dead. 

 

 Except:

  

  Pogonomyrmex barbatus

  Pheidole obscurithorax

  Pheidole morens


#11 Online Nathant2131 - Posted May 29 2017 - 3:59 PM

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Lasius umbratus queen.
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#12 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted May 29 2017 - 5:32 PM

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Lasius umbratus is one of the easier social parasites to keep.

 

http://www.formicult...cial-parasites/


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