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[AstamRua]

Hello Friends 

 

I found it in the garden wall

 

QUEEN İD : PRENOLEPİS NİTENS

 

Location: Turkey , Istanbul

Date: 4-12-17

Time: 6:00 PM

Temperature: 72F

Humidity: 0%

Wind: 9mph

Rain: 2 ays ago

 

 

princess lenght : 5 - 6 mm 

 

prince lenght : 2 - 3 mm

 

worker lenght : 2 - 3 mm

 

 

MORE PHOTOS

 

http://imgur.com/a/oF5mg

 

Thanks for help

Edited by AstamRua, April 17 2017 - 12:45 AM.

[Martialis]

Lasius. Cthonolasius subgenus.

Edited by Martialis, April 15 2017 - 11:12 AM.

[Spamdy]

Lasius. Cthonolasius subgenus.

I second Lausis though I'm not sure of subgenus.

[Nathant2131]

Lasius. Cthonolasius subgenus.

I agree.

[AstamRua]

Hello 

 

Thanks for answer , are you sure ? 

 

 

[Martialis]

Yes, check the measurements to be sure, but I'm 98% certain this is Lasius balcanicus.

[Nathant2131]

Oh. P. imparis is not in Turkey, but I am fairly confident in Prenolepis nitens now with these better pictures.

Edited by Nathant2131, April 15 2017 - 12:00 PM.

[AstamRua]

Thanks for help 

 

tomorrow take a new hd photos

[Martialis]

Oh. P. imparis is not in Turkey, but I am fairly confident in Prenolepis nitens now with these better pictures.

 

My original guess too. The measurements seem off, though.

Edited by Martialis, April 15 2017 - 12:16 PM.

[Nathant2131]

 

Oh. P. imparis is not in Turkey, but I am fairly confident in Prenolepis nitens now with these better pictures.

 

My original guess too. The measurements seem off, though.

 

The measurements are roughly correct if this is P. nitens.

Edited by Nathant2131, April 15 2017 - 12:21 PM.

[Martialis]

Really? I thought Prenolepis was a larger genus, size wise.

[Nathant2131]

Really? I thought Prenolepis was a larger genus, size wise.

No they are pretty small, like a niger-group Lasius species. Plus, size is species-dependant, always.

[Martialis]

 

Really? I thought Prenolepis was a larger genus, size wise.

No they are pretty small, like a niger-group Lasius species. Plus, size is species-dependant, always.

 

 

Thanks. I'm gonna go with  P. nitens now too.

[Jonathan21700]

Definitely Prenolepis nitens.

Edited by Jonathan21700, April 15 2017 - 1:47 PM.

[Batspiderfish]

I agree that the measurement is off, but those palps don't lie.

 

 

Really? I thought Prenolepis was a larger genus, size wise.

No they are pretty small, like a niger-group Lasius species. Plus, size is species-dependant, always.

 

 

Most Lasius queens are 8mm long, and Prenolepis are generally the same size or a little larger.

[Nathant2131]

I agree that the measurement is off, but those palps don't lie.
 

Really? I thought Prenolepis was a larger genus, size wise.

No they are pretty small, like a niger-group Lasius species. Plus, size is species-dependant, always.

 
Most Lasius queens are 8mm long, and Prenolepis are generally the same size or a little larger.

I figured it was a rough measurement. Guess we'll find out soon.

Also, I don't see the palps. Am I mistaking them for the antenna in the last picture?

[Batspiderfish]

 

I agree that the measurement is off, but those palps don't lie.

I figured it was a rough measurement. Guess we'll find out soon.

Also, I don't see the palps. Am I mistaking them for the antenna in the last picture?

 

 

The photographs are difficult, but you can see them on the worker and barely on that one upside-down queen at the top of this thread.

[Nathant2131]

I agree that the measurement is off, but those palps don't lie.

I figured it was a rough measurement. Guess we'll find out soon.
Also, I don't see the palps. Am I mistaking them for the antenna in the last picture?

 
The photographs are difficult, but you can see them on the worker and barely on that one upside-down queen at the top of this thread.

I see. So the long palps would eliminate umbratus-group Lasius, correct?

[AstamRua]

Hello dear friends . 

 

Thanks your help , 

 

We are found a Queen İD  

 

Latin Name: Prenolepis nitens Trivialname: Honeyant Taxonomy: Unterfamilie: Formicinae Tribus: Lasiini Keeping Level: 1-2 Distribution: South Eastern Europe to Austria (sporadically detected) Habitat: deciduous forest, open areas Colonyform: monogyn, polygyn Queen: Size: 8 - 10mm Colour: head and thorax brown to orange, gaster yellow/brown striped Worker: Size: 3 - 4mm Colour: reddish brown Soldier:  no Males: Size:  Colour: black Nutrition: Insects e.g. Dipterans like flies or mosquitos, honeywater, fruits Airhumidity: Arena: 30  - 50% Nestpart: 50 - 70% Temperature: Arena: 21 - 30°C Nestpart: 21 - 26°C Hibernation:  yes, from october to february Nestform: build their nest in soil and dead wood Kind of Formicaria: Farm, Farmbasin, Basin, Framebasin, Island, Acrylcylinder, Ytong/Plasternest Formicaria size: Size: S - M Substrate: Farm: Sand-Loam Arena: Sand, Sand-Loam Planting: similar to forestareas with moss, grass and other plants Decoration: Branches, Roots, Treeneedels Description: Prenolepis nitens is coloquially known as "european honey pot ant". Some workers develop as honey pot ants, but actually it can't be compared withreal honey pot ants of genus Myrmecocystus. The swollen gasters are merely fat storages in its histoid, also the workers limitedly continue the parental/brood care. Development: matingflight: very early: from late March to late May
founding: claustral (without feeding), maybe adoption
colonysize: up to 20.000 individuals Quantity: one fertilized queen with workers (see selection); brood (depending on the season and development)

[Batspiderfish]

 

 The photographs are difficult, but you can see them on the worker and barely on that one upside-down queen at the top of this thread.

I see. So the long palps would eliminate umbratus-group Lasius, correct?

 

The maxillary palps of Lasius are kind of unremarkable, although members from the claviger group have very short palps.