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3 Queen ID's Request.


Best Answer VoidElecent , March 27 2017 - 9:57 AM

The first one looks like Prenolepis nitens.

The second looks like a Messor species.

The third also looks like it's a Messor queen.

 

Being in the U.S, I don't know too much about Messor species. I know these queens could either be M. cadacus, M. capitatus, M. oertzeni, M. structor or M. wasmanni. However, I know Messor barbarus is a common harvester species to find at this time of the year in Europe. Nice catches and good luck with your queens!

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#1 Offline Vasquez - Posted March 27 2017 - 9:36 AM

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Note: I posted whole albums of them. The measurement are rough, Location is Serbia - Kosovo - R101 (Google for weather).

 

Queen 1.

 

1. Location of collection: In flower shop - low temperature (AC)
2. Date of collection: 24.3.2017
3. Habitat of collection: ////
4. Length (from head to gaster): Roughly 7-8mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Yellow-orangist? Look at pic
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Circles on gaster, also look at pic
7. Distinguishing behavior: Usually more calm then the other two. Sticks near the wattered cotton.
8. Nest description: ///

[Images of ant]

http://imgur.com/a/YyGlP

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Queen 2.

 

1. Location of collection: Sidewalks
2. Date of collection: 25.3.2017
3. Habitat of collection: ////
4. Length (from head to gaster): 12mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Black
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Still has wings XD
7. Distinguishing behavior: Sticks with the dry cotton, rather then wet one. Ate whole drop of honey over night. Semi-Claustral? 
8. Nest description: ///

[Images of ant]

http://imgur.com/a/inf7n

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Queen 2.

 

1. Location of collection: Besides a rock of sort. Was trying to dig out her chamber I guess.
2. Date of collection: 27.3.2017
3. Habitat of collection:  http://imgur.com/xU4ok2l, http://imgur.com/iUmcRLV
4. Length (from head to gaster): 12mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Black
6. Distinguishing characteristics: ////
7. Distinguishing behavior: Sticks between cottons. 
8. Nest description: ///

[Images of ant]

http://imgur.com/a/DQXK4



#2 Offline Bracchymyrmex - Posted March 27 2017 - 9:55 AM

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The first looks like a Prenolepis Imparis

 

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#3 Offline NZAntKeeper - Posted March 27 2017 - 9:57 AM

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1st Prenelopis Imparis?
2nd and 3rd Messor?
I'm not sure I'm only taking a guess.

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https://m.youtube.co...R--GtDfJdaJjWpQ

Species I have kept or are keeping
-Nylanderia sp?
-Pheidole sp
-Pachycondyla Castanea (I didn't catch the queen sadly)
-Monomorium Antarcticum
-Iridomyrmex sp
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-Amblyopone Australis


#4 Offline VoidElecent - Posted March 27 2017 - 9:57 AM   Best Answer

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The first one looks like Prenolepis nitens.

The second looks like a Messor species.

The third also looks like it's a Messor queen.

 

Being in the U.S, I don't know too much about Messor species. I know these queens could either be M. cadacus, M. capitatus, M. oertzeni, M. structor or M. wasmanni. However, I know Messor barbarus is a common harvester species to find at this time of the year in Europe. Nice catches and good luck with your queens!


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#5 Offline VoidElecent - Posted March 27 2017 - 10:01 AM

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The first looks like a Prenolepis Imparis

 

1st Prenelopis Imparis?

 

I think Prenolepis imparis are native to the states, and not to Europe. The only European Prenolepis species is P. nitens.


Edited by VoidElecent, March 27 2017 - 10:01 AM.


#6 Offline Vasquez - Posted March 27 2017 - 10:15 AM

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Alright, I'll wait for few other inputs - thank you all. 
Anyone has any tips on how to care for them?
Claustral? Semi? 



#7 Offline Canadian anter - Posted March 27 2017 - 10:41 AM

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All fully claustral. I agree with voidelecent.
P nitens
Messor
Messor
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#8 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted March 27 2017 - 10:51 AM

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Not P imparis. They are only in North America. I agree with another Prenolepis species like P. nitens for the first one.
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#9 Offline brbgyn - Posted March 27 2017 - 11:58 AM

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All fully claustral. I agree with voidelecent.
P nitens
Messor
Messor

 

Where can i find information about fully/semi claustral ants ? I did not find consistent information searching on google.

 

I would like to know also if a specific species is fully/semi claustral. Is there a place with some kind of list ? I know antwiki has some information, but for the one I'm searching it doesnยดt (i.e.: Brachymyrmex sp.).



#10 Offline Jonathan21700 - Posted April 2 2017 - 1:08 PM

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Messor structor. Both ants are fully claustral.



#11 Offline Vanko - Posted April 2 2017 - 1:21 PM

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Queen 2 and 3 are Messor Structor. I know this because I have 25 of them, but no idea about the first one.

BTW Do you want to sell the first queen to me?

Edited by Vanko, April 2 2017 - 1:22 PM.

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