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Pheidole bicarinata? ID Request.

Started By Loops117 , Feb 13 2017 8:48 PM

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#1 Offline Loops117 - Posted February 13 2017 - 8:48 PM

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Woke up another acorn yesterday. Was looking closely at this colony that didn't wake up all the way yet. What i thought was another Temnothorax colony may in fact be a Pheidole colony. I checked the species and at first they looked liked pheidole harrisonfordi? (lol, guess that's a real species), but that's not on the species list for Michigan. There is however Pheidole bicarinata that's found in michigan, and their pictures look a lot like all these guys.

 

The queen is in this mess somewere. And sorry they all look rather dead, they're still asleep really. Also, the queen is the one swinging her leg around.

 

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Thank you for looking.

 

 


#2 Offline Loops117 - Posted February 14 2017 - 5:37 AM

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#3 Offline Loops117 - Posted February 14 2017 - 7:38 AM

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Possibly an Intermorph queen? The range of worker sizes is insane.


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#4 Offline sgheaton - Posted February 14 2017 - 8:05 AM

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The queen is in this mess somewere. And sorry they all look rather dead, they're still asleep really. Also, the queen is the one swinging her leg around.

 

Really? I see the one queen making movement..the others are sleeping though? 


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#5 Offline Loops117 - Posted February 14 2017 - 8:10 AM

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Idk if they're sleeping or dead. Normally my queens die before the workers, so idk. This is one of the colonies that went through below freezing temps, so i may have lost a lot, or they're still waking up. Took some of my queens a week to start moving so we'll see about these girls.


#6 Offline Canadian anter - Posted February 14 2017 - 12:30 PM

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kinda looks like myrmecina or leptothorax


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#7 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted February 14 2017 - 8:10 PM

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Probably one of the raiding acorn ants (i.e. Temnothorax americanus), but I can't see them clearly enough (mandible tooth count and images of the front of the head would help.) No measurement, either.


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#8 Offline Alabama Anter - Posted February 14 2017 - 8:13 PM

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They have majors so it could be Pheidole, but BatSpiderFish probably has a more accurate ID


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#9 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted February 14 2017 - 8:15 PM

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Pheidole are dimorphic, so we would only see workers of two different sizes if it were one of our Pheidole.


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Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#10 Offline Loops117 - Posted February 15 2017 - 8:21 AM

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Sorry for no measurements or better pictures. Left for arizona and was only preparing my ants to survive a week without me. Wasnt really expecting to spend any more time with them other then changing out a tube. Ill be back home around the 22nd and will get better pictures then.

#11 Offline Mdrogun - Posted February 15 2017 - 8:23 AM

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If this is Pheidole, It's likely Pheidole pilifera. It looks a lot more like Temnothorax or something along those lines than Pheidole to me.


Edited by Mdrogun, February 15 2017 - 8:25 AM.

Currently Keeping:
Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Pheidole pilifera

Forelius sp. (Monogynous, bicolored) "Midwestern Forelius"
Crematogaster cerasi

Pheidole bicarinata

Aphaenogaster rudis

Camponotus chromaiodes

Formica sp. (microgena species)

Nylanderia cf. arenivega

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