This is the second one I've found. 7mm
Edited by AntsMAN, January 23 2017 - 3:57 PM.
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Myrmica sp. ID
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Posted September 7 2016 - 5:28 PM
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Posted September 9 2016 - 3:28 AM
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Waiting to get better close ups.
Edited by AntsMAN, September 13 2016 - 8:10 AM.
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Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2
Camponotus herculeanus x1
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Posted January 14 2017 - 3:43 PM
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What exactly am I looking for to properly ID these gals?
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Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2
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Lasius americanus x1 (Lasius alienus)
Lasius neoniger x1
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Posted January 14 2017 - 4:06 PM
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Could you get a side view of the waste segments? Myrmica sometimes have a "tooth" or lobe, spine on the under side that's helpful with IDs.
Could be Myrmica punctiventris or Myrmica AF-scu (for lack of a better name).
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Posted January 14 2017 - 4:15 PM
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A microscope and a dead, unmoving ant.
Myrmica identification has a lot to do with the shape and dimensions of the antennal scapes, the propodeal spines, and the petioles.
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Posted January 14 2017 - 5:31 PM
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If one were to die, Would anyone be willing to ID her for me as I don't have a microscope.
Current queens/colonies
Camponotus novaeboracensis x2
Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2
Camponotus herculeanus x1
Formica sp. x1
Lasius americanus x1 (Lasius alienus)
Lasius neoniger x1
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Posted January 14 2017 - 7:46 PM
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I honestly have little experience with Myrmica, although I could take a shot at it (especially with a worker). I've even rigged my old microscope to take pictures.
If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.
Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.
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Posted January 15 2017 - 9:38 AM
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I honestly have little experience with Myrmica, although I could take a shot at it (especially with a worker). I've even rigged my old microscope to take pictures.
That would be great, even some better pictures to share would be a huge help. I have two currently and one has laid eggs but she ate them.
Last year I seen a lot of Myrmica sp. nests so I'll get some dead specimens this year.
My only concern is sending them to you in the States as I am in Canada.
Current queens/colonies
Camponotus novaeboracensis x2
Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2
Camponotus herculeanus x1
Formica sp. x1
Lasius americanus x1 (Lasius alienus)
Lasius neoniger x1
Crematogastor cerasi x1
Myrmica sp. x1
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Posted January 15 2017 - 12:00 PM
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I don't suspect there will be too many issues in sending dead specimens, but we will have to cross that bridge if/when we get there. Maybe you know somebody who has a microscope? The keys are pretty straightforward, but the details you would be looking for go beyond macro photographs on the internet.
Edited by Batspiderfish, January 15 2017 - 12:02 PM.
If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.
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Posted January 15 2017 - 4:01 PM
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Myrmica Id takes a far braver soul than I am.
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Posted January 15 2017 - 5:07 PM
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I haven't even attempted to identify these ants because of how intimidating they are, but I think that this summer will be the time to start. Myrmica should be fresh on the mind of DoctorAnt, but I'll need all the help I can get. I will do my best to supplement the correct images with the descriptions that I believe match to them.
I only have a stage microscope right now. Maybe it's time to look for an old, quality dissecting microscope.
If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.
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Posted January 18 2017 - 5:25 PM
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She has laid more eggs!! Hopefully this colony does well.
Current queens/colonies
Camponotus novaeboracensis x2
Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2
Camponotus herculeanus x1
Formica sp. x1
Lasius americanus x1 (Lasius alienus)
Lasius neoniger x1
Crematogastor cerasi x1
Myrmica sp. x1
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Posted February 11 2017 - 9:08 AM
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Both queens now have pretty good piles of eggs. I thought the one was eating her eggs, but she may have had them hidden in the cotton. Either way I give them some honey now and then. I'm getting close to getting the picture I want lol.
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Current queens/colonies
Camponotus novaeboracensis x2
Camponotus pennsylvanicus x2
Camponotus herculeanus x1
Formica sp. x1
Lasius americanus x1 (Lasius alienus)
Lasius neoniger x1
Crematogastor cerasi x1
Myrmica sp. x1
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