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#1 Offline SamKeepsAnts - Posted December 8 2016 - 2:02 PM

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I need a id for a worker i found this is a common species i have just never gotten around to asking for an id

 

I found it right in the middle of an argentine ant trail and it was not being attacked exept for a few workers who gave it a small bite then kept going.

It is a bit over half the size of an argentine ant and is common but i only see 1 or 2 workers at a time also has a dull redish color and moves very smoothly in a way most ants don't and has no castes.I know this is a VERY incomplete description but this is the only other ant i find in the city other than argentine ants so there are not that many other ants there so it should be easy to id.


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#2 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted December 8 2016 - 2:11 PM

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I need a id for a worker i found this is a common species i have just never gotten around to asking for an id

 

I found it right in the middle of an argentine ant trail and it was not being attacked exept for a few workers who gave it a small bite then kept going.

It is a bit over half the size of an argentine ant and is common but i only see 1 or 2 workers at a time also has a dull redish color and moves very smoothly in a way most ants don't and has no castes.I know this is a VERY incomplete description but this is the only other ant i find in the city other than argentine ants so there are not that many other ants there so it should be easy to id.

 

SoCal has some of the most ant diversity in the country, so you might want to look in different places if you are just finding Linepithema. An ID cannot be made, based off of this description. All ants have castes, but I assume you mean that the workers are monomorphic (there are no majors).


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#3 Offline Serafine - Posted December 8 2016 - 2:22 PM

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Does it look anyhow like this?

 

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prenolepis-imparis-lateral.jpg

 

prenolepis-imparis-upshur.jpg


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#4 Offline SamKeepsAnts - Posted December 8 2016 - 2:23 PM

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looks like the first one


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#5 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted December 8 2016 - 2:26 PM

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No Lasius claviger in California.


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#6 Offline Serafine - Posted December 8 2016 - 3:42 PM

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Does it looks like these?

Prenolepis_imparis%2C_Cambridge%2C_Massa

 

Prenolepis_imparis%2C_Stow%2C_Massachuse

 

Prenolepis_imparis_on_Bur_cucumber%2C_Fr

 

That's Prenolepis imparis (winter ants/false honey pots). It's the first thing that came into my mind that can deal with invicta and argentines, has only has very few workers out during summer and moves in a very own smooth way.


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#7 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted December 8 2016 - 3:43 PM

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No Lasius claviger in California.

Although, I guess there is Lasius californicus. We still need the whole standard rundown to identify your ant.


 

looks like the first one

They're all the same species (all pictures).

 

No Lasius claviger in California.

That's not Lasius claviger, it's Prenolepis imparis (winter ants). It was the first thing that came into my mind that can deal with invicta and argentines and only has very few workers out during summer.

 

 

The queen at the top is Lasius claviger. http://bugguide.net/...w/373790/bgpage

 

The queen second down looks like Temnothorax -- definitely not Prenolepis imparis.


Edited by Batspiderfish, December 8 2016 - 3:45 PM.

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#8 Offline Serafine - Posted December 8 2016 - 3:56 PM

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Noticed it, google gave me wrong pictures.


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#9 Offline SamKeepsAnts - Posted December 8 2016 - 8:16 PM

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UPDATE was browsing throught journals and found this ant is monomorium ergatogyna


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#10 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted December 9 2016 - 6:05 AM

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UPDATE was browsing throught journals and found this ant is monomorium ergatogyna

You gotta use keys and descriptions with a picture of the ant or the ant itself. This other person could have misidentified their ants or you could be misremembering what the ant looked like.


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#11 Offline SamKeepsAnts - Posted December 9 2016 - 5:02 PM

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Ik but I looked up a pic and it shows the one I found


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#12 Offline gcsnelling - Posted December 9 2016 - 5:19 PM

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Monomorium is not reddish brown. If it resembles Monomorium but is reddish brown look at Cardiocondyla mauritanica.



#13 Offline SamKeepsAnts - Posted December 9 2016 - 5:34 PM

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That is exactly it is


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