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Pensacola, FL; 10-14-16; Very Small Worker


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#1 Offline Aaron567 - Posted October 14 2016 - 4:20 PM

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I have been seeing these 2mm workers walking around near the nests of Pheidole bicarinata, but I am pretty sure they are not Pheidole. They move differently and the whole body shape and leg length looks different (in my opinion) from Pheidole. They have 2 nodes, their head length is greater than the width, and they are brown with a darker colored gaster. In one of the pictures, it looks like there is a stinger, but I am not sure.

 

(These pictures aren't great because it was really tiny and wouldn't stop moving.)

Any Ideas on the genus?

 

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Edited by Aaron567, October 14 2016 - 4:48 PM.


#2 Offline Mdrogun - Posted October 14 2016 - 5:51 PM

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I have been seeing these 2mm workers walking around near the nests of Pheidole bicarinata, but I am pretty sure they are not Pheidole. They move differently and the whole body shape and leg length looks different (in my opinion) from Pheidole. They have 2 nodes, their head length is greater than the width, and they are brown with a darker colored gaster. In one of the pictures, it looks like there is a stinger, but I am not sure.

 

(These pictures aren't great because it was really tiny and wouldn't stop moving.)

Any Ideas on the genus?

 

IMG_6341_zpslrffghl2.jpg

IMG_6363_zpsxo4ad1iw.jpg

IMG_6369_zps7lvgbigr.jpg

IMG_6376_zpsshov04vy.jpg

IMG_6386_zpsvi8e3etd.jpg

IMG_6392_zpsbqwyrs64.jpg

I'm thinking this is Solenopsis molesta or Solenopsis carolinensis. Solenopsis carolinensis are "abundantly hairy"and in the last pic this ant seems to be quite hairy.


Currently Keeping:
Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Pheidole pilifera

Forelius sp. (Monogynous, bicolored) "Midwestern Forelius"
Crematogaster cerasi

Pheidole bicarinata

Aphaenogaster rudis

Camponotus chromaiodes

Formica sp. (microgena species)

Nylanderia cf. arenivega


#3 Offline Aaron567 - Posted October 14 2016 - 7:07 PM

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I'm thinking this is Solenopsis molesta or Solenopsis carolinensis. Solenopsis carolinensis are "abundantly hairy"and in the last pic this ant seems to be quite hairy.

 

But S. molesta or S. carolinensis have much smaller eyes, and they lack the small spike/spikes that this specimen has on it's thorax. You can just barely see the spike in the second picture and the fourth picture


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#4 Offline Aaron567 - Posted October 14 2016 - 7:50 PM

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Could it be Leptothorax sp.? :/

#5 Offline Canadian anter - Posted October 14 2016 - 7:51 PM

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Leptothorax would be a little big what about temnothorax
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#6 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted October 14 2016 - 8:13 PM

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Pretty sure we're looking at Cardiocondyla sp., based on the shape of the gaster and post-petiole.


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#7 Offline Mdrogun - Posted October 14 2016 - 8:40 PM

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Pretty sure we're looking at Cardiocondyla sp., based on the shape of the gaster and post-petiole.

I agree. Taking a closer look these are the 3 species in Florida that somewhat resembled the ant in the pic:

1. Cardiocondyla emeryi

2. Cardiocondyla obscurior
3. Cardiocondyla wroughtonii

 

 

Cardiocondyla wroughtonii seems to be the least similar looking but I don't want to rule it out. Cardiocondyla emeryi is the closest looking to the ant in the pictures.


Currently Keeping:
Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Pheidole pilifera

Forelius sp. (Monogynous, bicolored) "Midwestern Forelius"
Crematogaster cerasi

Pheidole bicarinata

Aphaenogaster rudis

Camponotus chromaiodes

Formica sp. (microgena species)

Nylanderia cf. arenivega





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