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How deep are desert founding chambers?


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#1 Offline Foogoo - Posted September 26 2015 - 9:22 PM

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Does anyone have first-hand observation or literature describing how deep claustral desert species (i.e. Pogonomyrmex, Myrmecocystus, Veromessor, etc.) settle their founding chambers? All I could find is "deep". Are we talking 1'? 5'? Through the Earth to China?


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#2 Offline drtrmiller - Posted September 26 2015 - 9:40 PM

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Through the Earth to China?


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#3 Offline Mdrogun - Posted September 27 2015 - 1:11 AM

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I've seen pictures of mature Pogonomyrmex colonies that have tunnels 5+ feet down. I assume that founding chambers are probably a foot deep at least to access the water in the ground and they gradually make it deeper over time.

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#4 Offline Anhzor - Posted October 13 2015 - 8:10 PM

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digging 10 feet down in the desert and you'll find that the dirt is moist, I assume that they are prob at least that deep.



#5 Offline Crystals - Posted October 28 2015 - 7:40 AM

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If you are hoping to dig them up, then it is best to go right after a rain when flights are usually just occuring.

From what I read by other members, the first 1-3 days are the best time.  It seems that some species will dig too far to easily find after 24 hours or so.


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#6 Offline Reacker - Posted November 3 2015 - 11:11 AM

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In my experience, they tend to stay less than 2 feet deep for the first 2 or so days. The next day or earlier is the best time by far.

 

Maybe drew will be nice enough to find and post the video he took of an anting trip he went on with other forum members where they go around shoveling what looked like less than a foot from each chamber and getting queens most of the time. 






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