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#1 Offline RazzCicle767 - Posted Yesterday, 3:58 PM

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How do I get a permit for transportation of possible invasive species/ exotic species/ PPQ 526 I want to have that ability but idk how to get one. I also don’t exactly know how it works.
There is no way the USDA will just hand out environmental hazards to anyone.
If anyone has any info on this topic it will help tremendously.

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#2 Offline AntsTx - Posted Yesterday, 4:03 PM

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Depends on what species you're trying to get but it would be near impossible, you have to make a "escape-proof facility" that meets USDA's standards, and it would be extremely time consuming.

 

Also, you're from Texas, there is a ton of cool species native here. You should focus on Texas's species diversity.


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#3 Offline ANTdrew - Posted Yesterday, 4:17 PM

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We’ve already been through all this. Successfully keep and appreciate the plethora of native Texas species before you even think about getting permits.
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#4 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted Yesterday, 4:21 PM

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How do I get a permit for transportation of possible invasive species/ exotic species/ PPQ 526 I want to have that ability but idk how to get one. I also don’t exactly know how it works.
There is no way the USDA will just hand out environmental hazards to anyone.
If anyone has any info on this topic it will help tremendously.

RushmoreAnts answered your question previously, but to summarize:

You need to be over 18 and create an account with the USDA, create a permit through a time consuming process, and actually get accepted. In order for that to happen, you need to prove that you have an escape proof facility as AntsTx said. You seem to be obsessed with exotic species, but how many native colonies have you raised for over a year? Seriously, for the best long-term health of your ant keeping career and colonies, focus on keeping native species for a while. You can even purchase ants from a seller if you can't find any. What about native species is so aversive to you? 


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#5 Offline RazzCicle767 - Posted Today, 5:52 AM

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I'm sorry i asked this same question again, I'm quite forgetful.

i am just very curious, and can't ever seem to find many cool queens. i also can't buy ants very often because I'm always low on money and they can be pricy.

i am greatful for all your responses.


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#6 Offline ANTdrew - Posted Today, 5:57 AM

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Exotic queens are going to cost even more money. Take time to read up on techniques for finding queens, message knowledgeable members from your area, and try blacklighting.
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#7 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted Today, 2:17 PM

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I'm sorry i asked this same question again, I'm quite forgetful.

i am just very curious, and can't ever seem to find many cool queens. i also can't buy ants very often because I'm always low on money and they can be pricy.

i am greatful for all your responses.

Yeah I hate to say it but ANTdrew is right. If you are low on money the last thing you need to be doing is getting a permit, as keeping as well as getting exotic species is so hard. The priciness is correct, but I would look into a black light or just monitor your local weather and you will find queens fast. Go out and look for queens every evening after it rains, and your problem will be solved.


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#8 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted Today, 4:25 PM

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How do I get a permit for transportation of possible invasive species/ exotic species/ PPQ 526 I want to have that ability but idk how to get one. I also don’t exactly know how it works.
There is no way the USDA will just hand out environmental hazards to anyone.
If anyone has any info on this topic it will help tremendously.

Here's my list of EXOTIC SPECIES that are NATIVE TO TEXAS that I would love to get my hands on, and am jealous that you have free and legal access to:

 

Acromyrmex versicolor

Atta mexicana

Atta texana

Carebara longii

Cephalotes minutus

Cephalotes scutulatus

Cephalotes texanus

Cyphomyrmex wheeleri

Labidus coecus

Labidus praedator

Leptanilloides chihuahuaensis

Myrmecocystus depilis

Myrmecocystus ewarti

Myrmecocystus mellinger

Myrmecocystus mendax

Myrmecocystus mexicanus

Myrmecocystus navajo

Myrmecocystus placadops

Myrmecocystus romanei

Neivamyrmex andrei

Neivamyrmex fuscipennis

Neivamyrmex harrisii

Neivamyrmex kiowapache

Neivamyrmex leonardi

Neivamyrmex melshaemari

Neivamyrmex minor

Neivamyrmex mosseri

Neivamyrmex opacithorax

Neivamyrmex pauxilus

Neivamyrmex pilosus

Neivamyrmex swainsonii

Neivamyrmex texanus

Neoponera vilosa

Odontomachus brunneus

Odontomachus clarus

Odontomachus desertorum

Pachycondyla harpax

Pheidole obtusospinosa

Pogonomyrmex maricopa

Solenopsis amblychila

Solenopsis aurea

Solenopsis geminata

Solenopsis xyloni

Trachymyrmex arizonicus

Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Trachymyrmex smithi

 

You are QUITE BLESSED in Texas.


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#9 Offline AntsTx - Posted Today, 7:00 PM

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U forgot Cyphomyrmex minutus  :mad: 

 

 

How do I get a permit for transportation of possible invasive species/ exotic species/ PPQ 526 I want to have that ability but idk how to get one. I also don’t exactly know how it works.
There is no way the USDA will just hand out environmental hazards to anyone.
If anyone has any info on this topic it will help tremendously.

Here's my list of EXOTIC SPECIES that are NATIVE TO TEXAS that I would love to get my hands on, and am jealous that you have free and legal access to:

 

Acromyrmex versicolor

Atta mexicana

Atta texana

Carebara longii

Cephalotes minutus

Cephalotes scutulatus

Cephalotes texanus

Cyphomyrmex wheeleri

Labidus coecus

Labidus praedator

Leptanilloides chihuahuaensis

Myrmecocystus depilis

Myrmecocystus ewarti

Myrmecocystus mellinger

Myrmecocystus mendax

Myrmecocystus mexicanus

Myrmecocystus navajo

Myrmecocystus placadops

Myrmecocystus romanei

Neivamyrmex andrei

Neivamyrmex fuscipennis

Neivamyrmex harrisii

Neivamyrmex kiowapache

Neivamyrmex leonardi

Neivamyrmex melshaemari

Neivamyrmex minor

Neivamyrmex mosseri

Neivamyrmex opacithorax

Neivamyrmex pauxilus

Neivamyrmex pilosus

Neivamyrmex swainsonii

Neivamyrmex texanus

Neoponera vilosa

Odontomachus brunneus

Odontomachus clarus

Odontomachus desertorum

Pachycondyla harpax

Pheidole obtusospinosa

Pogonomyrmex maricopa

Solenopsis amblychila

Solenopsis aurea

Solenopsis geminata

Solenopsis xyloni

Trachymyrmex arizonicus

Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Trachymyrmex smithi

 

You are QUITE BLESSED in Texas.

 


antastico!


#10 Offline bmb1bee - Posted Today, 7:48 PM

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Here's my list of EXOTIC SPECIES that are NATIVE TO TEXAS that I would love to get my hands on, and am jealous that you have free and legal access to:

 

 

 

 

You are QUITE BLESSED in Texas.

Formica not being in that list is diabolical...

 

But indeed, there are plenty of interesting ants that are probably within a decent distance. Just check iNaturalist for species in your area. There's bound to be something good.


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#11 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted Today, 7:56 PM

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Here's my list of EXOTIC SPECIES that are NATIVE TO TEXAS that I would love to get my hands on, and am jealous that you have free and legal access to:

 

 

 

 

You are QUITE BLESSED in Texas.

Formica not being in that list is diabolical...

 

But indeed, there are plenty of interesting ants that are probably within a decent distance. Just check iNaturalist for species in your area. There's bound to be something good.

 

I absolutely love Formia, but for this list I was talking about ants that I couldn't get and consider exotic. South Dakota is a Formica haven, so they're not exactly exotic or hard to come by around here. Even if there's a couple species we don't have, we have all of the North American species groups, and I could get something very similar.


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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans

Formica pallidefulva, argentea

Formica cf. aserva

Pheidole bicarinata

Lasius claviger

Camponotus vicinus, modoc

Lasius neoniger, brevicornis





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