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#1 Offline RazzCicle767 - Posted May 28 2025 - 6:43 AM

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I found these in a pecan in southwestern Missouri a while back and have not been able to ID them. They look like giant Pharoh ants to me. The queen has one big black stripe on her abdomen, and her workers have 3 black spots on their’s. Here is the picture.
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#2 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted May 28 2025 - 7:14 AM

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They look like temnothorax curvispinosus, considering that the workers have two black dots on them


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Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, 35-40 workers +  BIG brood pile + 10 pupa.

1x Crematogaster cerasi, 1 workers + finally some bigger brood (The worker that was dying died  :facepalm:)

1x Myrmica ruba sp around 10 workers

*New* 1x  founding Camponotus pennsylvanicus + eggs that die (probably infertile)

*New* 2x Camponotus nova, one is infertile

*As you watch your ants march, remember that every thing begins with a small step and continued by diligence and shared dreams*

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#3 Offline RazzCicle767 - Posted May 28 2025 - 8:46 AM

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Thank you, that was very helpful. I can now get tips on how to care for them. Thank you again!
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#4 Offline OwlThatLikesAnts - Posted May 28 2025 - 11:22 AM

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Thank you, that was very helpful. I can now get tips on how to care for them. Thank you again!

Sadly I have never kept them before so I can’t really provide much insight, but I do know that they don’t require anything really special and can be kept like any ant (that are really small)


Currently keeping:

 

1x Formica subsericea, 35-40 workers +  BIG brood pile + 10 pupa.

1x Crematogaster cerasi, 1 workers + finally some bigger brood (The worker that was dying died  :facepalm:)

1x Myrmica ruba sp around 10 workers

*New* 1x  founding Camponotus pennsylvanicus + eggs that die (probably infertile)

*New* 2x Camponotus nova, one is infertile

*As you watch your ants march, remember that every thing begins with a small step and continued by diligence and shared dreams*

-A.T (which is Me)

 


#5 Offline Artisan_Ants - Posted May 28 2025 - 12:57 PM

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Thank you, that was very helpful. I can now get tips on how to care for them. Thank you again!

Keep them like any other species of ant. The setup in the pictures provided is perfect! Just make sure you're feeding them (protein in the form of insects like mealworms, super worms, silkworms, dubia roaches etc) and minimize disturbance as much as possible.


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Keeping:

1x - S. molesta REBOOT (founding)         1x - C. pennsylvanicus (founding)   (y) New!

2x - C. chromaiodes (founding queen and colony)                                       

1x - T. sessile (mega colony)

1x - C. nearcticus (alate ==> founding?)

 

Check out my C. nearcticus journal here: https://www.formicul...cticus-journal/

Check out my C. chromaiodes journal here: https://www.formicul...aiodes-journal/


#6 Offline RazzCicle767 - Posted May 30 2025 - 3:28 PM

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Ok, do I need to give them a small outworld or do I just need the test tube for this stage?

#7 Offline Artisan_Ants - Posted May 30 2025 - 4:27 PM

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Ok, do I need to give them a small outworld or do I just need the test tube for this stage?

You can just use the current test tube setup to feed them but just keep in mind that there is a risk of mold if you do that (especially with protein, as the ants carry small chunks and bring it to their larvae to feed on it Leftovers will get onto the cotton and create spores resulting in mold.) An outworld is also fine, just keep it small like you said, and provide ventilation holes if you do so (make sure they're small enough that the ants can't escape as the workers of this ant species are obviously very small). It's really up to you on how you want to feed them but just note that this Temnothorax species has very small colonies (peaking at around 100 or less workers according to AntWiki) you might want to consider limited foraging area in general (despite the mold, I personally prefer the test tube feeding method for small ant species). 

 

Hope this helps!


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Keeping:

1x - S. molesta REBOOT (founding)         1x - C. pennsylvanicus (founding)   (y) New!

2x - C. chromaiodes (founding queen and colony)                                       

1x - T. sessile (mega colony)

1x - C. nearcticus (alate ==> founding?)

 

Check out my C. nearcticus journal here: https://www.formicul...cticus-journal/

Check out my C. chromaiodes journal here: https://www.formicul...aiodes-journal/


#8 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 31 2025 - 3:20 AM

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Ok, do I need to give them a small outworld or do I just need the test tube for this stage?

You can just use the current test tube setup to feed them but just keep in mind that there is a risk of mold if you do that (especially with protein, as the ants carry small chunks and bring it to their larvae to feed on it Leftovers will get onto the cotton and create spores resulting in mold.) An outworld is also fine, just keep it small like you said, and provide ventilation holes if you do so (make sure they're small enough that the ants can't escape as the workers of this ant species are obviously very small). It's really up to you on how you want to feed them but just note that this Temnothorax species has very small colonies (peaking at around 100 or less workers according to AntWiki) you might want to consider limited foraging area in general (despite the mold, I personally prefer the test tube feeding method for small ant species).

Hope this helps!
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#9 Offline AntBoi3030 - Posted May 31 2025 - 3:38 PM

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No, I don't think it is.


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#10 Offline Artisan_Ants - Posted May 31 2025 - 4:43 PM

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Ok, do I need to give them a small outworld or do I just need the test tube for this stage?

You can just use the current test tube setup to feed them but just keep in mind that there is a risk of mold if you do that (especially with protein, as the ants carry small chunks and bring it to their larvae to feed on it Leftovers will get onto the cotton and create spores resulting in mold.) An outworld is also fine, just keep it small like you said, and provide ventilation holes if you do so (make sure they're small enough that the ants can't escape as the workers of this ant species are obviously very small). It's really up to you on how you want to feed them but just note that this Temnothorax species has very small colonies (peaking at around 100 or less workers according to AntWiki) you might want to consider limited foraging area in general (despite the mold, I personally prefer the test tube feeding method for small ant species).

Hope this helps!
Is this AI?

 

No. I wrote this myself based off of personal experience.


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Keeping:

1x - S. molesta REBOOT (founding)         1x - C. pennsylvanicus (founding)   (y) New!

2x - C. chromaiodes (founding queen and colony)                                       

1x - T. sessile (mega colony)

1x - C. nearcticus (alate ==> founding?)

 

Check out my C. nearcticus journal here: https://www.formicul...cticus-journal/

Check out my C. chromaiodes journal here: https://www.formicul...aiodes-journal/


#11 Offline RazzCicle767 - Posted June 5 2025 - 11:46 AM

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Yep he’s real. He answered most of my posted topics
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