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Pogonomyrmex id Whitney, TX

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#1 Offline AntsTx - Posted May 12 2025 - 5:28 PM

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1. Whitney, TX

2. 6/30/24

3. Arid grasslands

4. Worker 5-8mm Queen 9-11mm

5. Full dark red body

6. Long mandibles

7. Very crazy when disturbed

8. Ant mound

9. Sometime in June

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Camponotus sayi x4 - Pupae                                     Atta texana x58

Camponotus discolor x6 - Pupae                               Formica sp. - Larvae

Camponotus texanus - 15-20 workers                       Formica sp. - Eggs                                                                               

Camponotus pennsylvanicus - 125-150 workers       Leptogenys elongata - 7-10 workers                                                                                                                               

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis - 50-75 workers            Pheidole hyatti - 10 workers        

Crematogaster spp. - 500-1000 workers                   Camponotus novaeboracensis - Eggs

Novomessor albisetosus - 150-200 workers             

Camponotus sansabeanus x9 - Eggs           

 


#2 Offline ReignofRage - Posted May 12 2025 - 7:43 PM

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Pogonomyrmex comanche.


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#3 Offline Full_Frontal_Yeti - Posted Yesterday, 7:23 AM

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I'd bet comanche or occidentalis.
A better look at the beard would help, comanche will be distinctly more beard than occidentalis.

Also collection location and nest helps. 

 

Comanche are associated with sandy soil and near post-oak trees/grove is where to find comanche. While occidentalis is kind of anywhere, but will choose denser pack soil while comanche would be nearly exclusive to looser sandy soil.

And the nest of comanche will spceifficly be a mound with a circular central crater at the top. Where a single enrtance is found with no loose pebbels around it, as occidentalis keeps aorund to cover their nest entrace at night.

So if you saw the nest site and build, that would help on the disticntion between the two.


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#4 Offline AntsTx - Posted Yesterday, 7:48 AM

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I'd bet comanche or occidentalis.
A better look at the beard would help, comanche will be distinctly more beard than occidentalis.

Also collection location and nest helps. 

 

Comanche are associated with sandy soil and near post-oak trees/grove is where to find comanche. While occidentalis is kind of anywhere, but will choose denser pack soil while comanche would be nearly exclusive to looser sandy soil.

And the nest of comanche will spceifficly be a mound with a circular central crater at the top. Where a single enrtance is found with no loose pebbels around it, as occidentalis keeps aorund to cover their nest entrace at night.

So if you saw the nest site and build, that would help on the disticntion between the two.

I can get pictures of the beard later today. Would it be the queen or the workers that have the beard?

 

They are in the environment that you described and they have the central crater at the top. I've noticed they close up their nests at night but some colonies have them wide open. It was around 70f at 1:00 am when I observed that. 


Currently Keeping:

Camponotus sayi x4 - Pupae                                     Atta texana x58

Camponotus discolor x6 - Pupae                               Formica sp. - Larvae

Camponotus texanus - 15-20 workers                       Formica sp. - Eggs                                                                               

Camponotus pennsylvanicus - 125-150 workers       Leptogenys elongata - 7-10 workers                                                                                                                               

Pogonomyrmex occidentalis - 50-75 workers            Pheidole hyatti - 10 workers        

Crematogaster spp. - 500-1000 workers                   Camponotus novaeboracensis - Eggs

Novomessor albisetosus - 150-200 workers             

Camponotus sansabeanus x9 - Eggs           

 






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