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M_Ants Solenopsis amblychila (Success)

Started By M_Ants , Jul 19 2020 12:24 PM

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#1 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 19 2020 - 12:24 PM

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Caught this at a local trail on July 11th. When I learned it was parasitic I gave it some pupae from my xyloni queen. The queen didn't care for them much. After a few days she started looking thin so I gave her some honey. She drank all of it and chilled on the wet cotton ball in the test tube for a few days. My xyloni got workers last night so I gave her a worker today. She took it and they didn't fight at all. Video coming soon.

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Edited by M_Ants, October 19 2024 - 4:00 PM.

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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#2 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 19 2020 - 12:50 PM

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Just a question, what time did you find these queens? I’m near Mission Trails, and I thought they close at 5 PM. Also do you know where you found them?
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#3 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 19 2020 - 12:57 PM

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I found them at around 7:30ish. I think it was last week.


Edited by M_Ants, July 19 2020 - 12:57 PM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#4 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 19 2020 - 3:08 PM

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Just a question, what time did you find these queens? I’m near Mission Trails, and I thought they close at 5 PM. Also do you know where you found them?

Arent you in LA?? Mission Trails is over 100 miles away from LA county. Maybe you are talking about a different mission trails.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#5 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 19 2020 - 4:11 PM

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Yes, I am in LA. But I took an anting weekend road trip to San Diego, just to check out what lived there so I can plan where to ant, and what to try and catch.

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My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#6 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 19 2020 - 4:20 PM

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Lovely, we don't get Solen amblys enough.


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#7 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 19 2020 - 9:57 PM

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Just found it dead. :(


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#8 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 19 2020 - 10:08 PM

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Wow, that was a quick death, only a week. RIP..
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#9 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 20 2020 - 8:59 AM

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Just found it dead. :(

What do you think killed it?


Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 

#10 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 20 2020 - 9:46 AM

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No idea. It was doing good and seemed chill with the worker. When I came home it was squished up against the cotton and the glass like it was trying to escape.


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Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#11 Offline RushmoreAnts - Posted July 20 2020 - 10:01 AM

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Could just not have mated. I find unmated queens die rather quickly sometimes.

"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds (including ants). And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version

 

Keeping:

Tetramorium immigrans                                  Camponotus vicinus, modoc, novaeboracensis, herculeanus

Formica pallidefulva, argentea                        Solenopsis molesta

Formica cf. aserva                                          Lasius brevicornis, neoniger

Pheidole bicarinata

Lasius claviger

#12 Offline M_Ants - Posted August 10 2020 - 5:15 PM

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Bringing this back. I caught more of these queens. Was only able to keep one. It has 2 hosts and an egg pile. So far better than attempt #1.


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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#13 Offline TechAnt - Posted August 10 2020 - 5:40 PM

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Awesome!
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#14 Offline zantezaint - Posted August 10 2020 - 6:27 PM

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It may be possible it got tangled in the wet cotton, and drowned/force fed with liquid.


https://www.formicul...ale-california/

 

4 x Solenopsis xyloni (Fire ant) colonies.

2 x Veromessor andrei (Seed-harvester ant) colonies.

19 x Pogonomyrmex subnitidus (Seed-harvester ant) colonies + 3 x Pogonomyrmex (ID uncertain) colonies

16 x Linepithema humile (Argentine ant) colonies.

1 x Unknown Formicidae colony.

1 x Tapinoma sessile (Odorous house ant) colony.

1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

1 x Solenopsis molesta (Thief ant) colony.

#15 Offline Guest_StrickyAnts_* - Posted November 12 2020 - 10:58 AM

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update? dead?


#16 Offline M_Ants - Posted November 12 2020 - 11:22 AM

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I caught like 15 right before I went on vacation. I had to get rid of them all except one. Of course the one I chose was the only infertile one.  :facepalm:  I will succeed with these next year. I guarantee it. 


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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#17 Offline Guest_StrickyAnts_* - Posted November 12 2020 - 2:35 PM

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I caught like 15 right before I went on vacation. I had to get rid of them all except one. Of course the one I chose was the only infertile one.  :facepalm:  I will succeed with these next year. I guarantee it. 

haha, I was gonna get one but it died  (n)  


#18 Offline M_Ants - Posted June 19 2021 - 7:18 PM

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Sorta reviving this journal. Caught an xyloni queen to get a host colony going ahead of time. 


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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#19 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 19 2021 - 8:10 AM

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We're back in business. Got three new queens last night and xyloni pupae are just eclosing. Perfect timing.   


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Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about

#20 Offline NicholasP - Posted July 21 2021 - 3:34 PM

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Now I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Solenopsis Amblyhcilla can't have Solenopsis Xyloni pupae they only take Solenopsis Xyloni workers. So for the introduction introduce 1 workers at a time and in the end have at least 50 workers in with her and do not put in Xyloni pupae. I've kept Amblychilla in the past.


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