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Will ants from the same colony that have been separate for over 24 hr recognize each other?

Started By DEAD_DOG , Jul 2 2024 10:53 PM

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#1 Offline DEAD_DOG - Posted July 2 2024 - 10:53 PM

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Me and my dad are working on fixing up one of his old cars, but it has a colony of what I think are Camponotus vicinus in it, I have been working on moving them to a formicarium and have gotten a few dozen or so workers, a little bit of brude, and one of if not the only queen. I hope to be able to work on transferring more workers from the car to the set up but due to my schedule, I won’t be able to do it for at least a day or so. Will the ants recognize each other‘s pheromones even if they’ve been separated for a long time?
Worker feeding the queen:40b13f7c9face3542eb527894d0c4eae.jpg


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#2 Offline NotAxo - Posted July 3 2024 - 1:11 AM

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It shouldn't be a problem, since the scent on older ants take longer to dissapear. But I'm not sure so best to wait till someone else replies
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#3 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted July 3 2024 - 7:26 AM

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It should not be too much of a problem unless its long term.


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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

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#4 Offline Serafine - Posted July 3 2024 - 7:31 AM

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It'll need at least a few days for the colony scent to dillute significantly.

Also they are less sceptic if they meet "strange smelling" workers further outwards, so if they haven't seen each other for a few days don't drop them directly onto the brood.


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#5 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted July 3 2024 - 2:50 PM

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The ants look like C.essigi not vicinus.

Edit: the gaster is blacker though


Edited by GOCAMPONOTUS, July 3 2024 - 2:57 PM.

Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#6 Offline Stubyvast - Posted July 3 2024 - 5:23 PM

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Nope they'll recognize each other if it's only been a day...and even up to a week I'm sure would be fine. 


Manica invidia (1 queen,  ~200 workers)

Manica invidia (1 colonies, 1 queens plus 3 workers)

Lasius niger (single queen, ~200 workers - naturalistic, predatory set-up)

Lasius americanus (1 colony, ~10 workers)

Tetramorium immigrans (3 colonies, 3 queens, ~ five workers each | 1 colony, 1 queen, ~1200 workers)

Formica aserva (aserva queen, ~15  ​Formica neorufibarbis workers)

 

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#7 Offline The_Gaming-gate - Posted July 5 2024 - 3:10 PM

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Camponotus seem to be very good at recognizing workers, so they should be able to recognize their sisters for over a week. Callows could have trouble, but they should recognize the other ants as well.

The nest you found probably only had one queen- multiqueen Camponotus colonies are rare, although I’m not sure about this specific species.

Edited by The_Gaming-gate, July 5 2024 - 3:11 PM.

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#8 Offline Stubyvast - Posted July 5 2024 - 6:59 PM

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Apparently C. Vicinus is one of the only Camponotus that can form polygynous colonies, although I'm unsure if this is just during the founding stage or for life. 


Manica invidia (1 queen,  ~200 workers)

Manica invidia (1 colonies, 1 queens plus 3 workers)

Lasius niger (single queen, ~200 workers - naturalistic, predatory set-up)

Lasius americanus (1 colony, ~10 workers)

Tetramorium immigrans (3 colonies, 3 queens, ~ five workers each | 1 colony, 1 queen, ~1200 workers)

Formica aserva (aserva queen, ~15  ​Formica neorufibarbis workers)

 

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#9 Offline GOCAMPONOTUS - Posted July 5 2024 - 8:01 PM

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There are a few other poly species like C.clarithorax. but some also found together in pleometrosis. An example of this is C.ca02


Edited by GOCAMPONOTUS, July 5 2024 - 8:02 PM.

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Currently keeping: 2 C.vicinus colonies.2 C.sansabeanus. 1 C.leavissimus. 2 C.Ca02. 1 V.pergandei. 4 T.immigrans.1 F.pacifica. 1 C.hyatti

1 M.ergatognya

 

 

 

 

Trying to get my hands on :C.modoc,A.vercicolor, and Any Honeypots

  

 

 

#10 Offline NotAxo - Posted July 11 2024 - 7:29 AM

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I'm not sure, but I've kept C. irratians in polygynous setups. I've only kept them till a dozen nanitics, after which I've had to release them

Currently raising : C. Parius (2x), C. Vitiosus (2x), Carebara Diversa (1x), C. irratians (2x), M. brunnea (1x)

Have raised : Solenopsis

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