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Queens caught under rock - NY, Oct 7


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#1 Offline Voidley - Posted October 7 2023 - 5:15 PM

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    I just found these two queens each under adjacent rocks which I flipped. They were found at around noon today (10/7/23) in NY. They are about 8mm, have orange and brown coloration, thick legs and antennae, and look kind of parasitic. My best guess would be Lasius claviger but I’m really not sure. I didn’t see any brood or workers with them under the rocks, so does that mean they are not social parasites? I would think their first stop would be to take over a nest but I could very well be wrong so feel free to correct me. Thanks.
 
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#2 Offline AntsCali098 - Posted October 7 2023 - 5:51 PM

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Parasitic lasius
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#3 Offline Virginian_ants - Posted October 7 2023 - 6:13 PM

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Yes parasitic maybe clavier. They hibernate under rocks and they use them for cover instead of being threatened by predators.
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#4 Offline Voidley - Posted October 7 2023 - 6:33 PM

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Yes parasitic maybe clavier. They hibernate under rocks and they use them for cover instead of being threatened by predators.

I guess that makes sense if one of your hosts is neoniger. There's no point in killing a queen who won't provide the workers you need until spring.

Should I hibernate them before trying to introduce them to host workers? Or should I give her workers/brood now, and then hibernate them like normal?



#5 Online ANTdrew - Posted October 8 2023 - 2:24 AM

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Following a natural cycle would probably be best, but I bet you could go either way.
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#6 Offline Jonathan5608 - Posted October 8 2023 - 5:24 AM

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Claviger. Probably part of the massive flight LI had last week. Hibernate would be best.

Edited by Jonathan5608, October 8 2023 - 5:26 AM.

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#7 Offline Virginian_ants - Posted October 8 2023 - 7:29 AM

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I cought aphidicola a few days ago under a brick. I'm going to hibernate her before I introduce her to workers.
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#8 Offline Major - Posted October 9 2023 - 3:37 PM

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Yep claviger. One thing I would mention about them that many people don't know is that they (the queens especially) can be quite finicky with cotton. So I suggest using a blue 16 mm sponge instead. For her hosts just grab some lasius brood and some workers, she can't open brood herself. I would introduce workers now and then hibernate.


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