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#1 Offline Virginian_ants - Posted June 15 2023 - 2:33 PM

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What are gyne's?
And what are macrogynes and microgynes?
How is it that mystrium are mostly in Madagascar but there are some in South East Asia?
What caused the birth of test tube setups?
Who first kept ants?
Where in the world did ants originate?
I might add more and I will understand if some can't be answered.

#2 Offline antsriondel - Posted June 15 2023 - 2:36 PM

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#3 Online Ernteameise - Posted June 15 2023 - 2:51 PM

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There are some great books you can buy and which are a joy to read.

Most of them are also Ebooks.

"Ants- a visual journey" by Heather Campbell

"Tales from the Ant World" by E.O. Wilson

"Adventures among Ants" by Mark Moffett

"Ants Workers of the World" (fantastic picture book) by Elanor Spicer Rice

and THE classic:

"Journey to the ants" by Edward O. Wilson and Bert Hölldobler

Enjoy.


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#4 Offline Virginian_ants - Posted June 15 2023 - 2:53 PM

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Just look it up on Google.

Not all of them Google can answer.

#5 Offline Locness - Posted June 15 2023 - 2:59 PM

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Just look it up on Google.


I tend to agree, but lately I think it's better for humans to communicate with each other, even if it's not optimal at times. This is how we build up new hobbyists, form relationships, and in this case, strengthen our hobby.
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#6 Offline Serafine - Posted June 15 2023 - 3:45 PM

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What are gyne's?
And what are macrogynes and microgynes?
How is it that mystrium are mostly in Madagascar but there are some in South East Asia?
What caused the birth of test tube setups?
Who first kept ants?
Where in the world did ants originate?
I might add more and I will understand if some can't be answered.

Gyne is just another word for queen.

 

Myrmica rubra ants have 2 different types of queens, big ones (Macrogynes) and small ones (Microgynes). These are actually different genetic lines and the microgynes are likely an emerging parasitic species that hasn't yet completely separated from their host species they evolved from.

 

No idea, but probably they were all over the place and the populations in between the two locations simply died out. It's also possible they were introduced to one place by humans traveling across the oceans.

 

Test tube setups are a very cheap, low maintenance and easy-to-handle nest substitute that also offers superb vision at the ants living inside. It is most likely some scientists came up with it (i do know for a fact E. O. Wilson kept weaver ants in some sort of "test tube tree") as they are always trying to find cheap and low maintenance ways to handle animals they're studying, and test tubes are abundant scientific standard equipment.

 

No idea, but certainly some scientist to study them, probably in the late 1800s or the early 1900s.
 

Ants evolved from wasps in the early to mid Jurassic (the time when the really large Sauropods appeared) and must have spread extremely quickly across almost the entire world. By the late cretaceuos period most of the subfamilies we know today were established.

As for most smaller animals that rarely leave fossil materials it is impossible to tell where exactly they first appeared - and even if we knew it wouldn't be of much use for the average person as the world back then looked very different from our world today. At the time the ants appeared the world was made up of two large connected supercontinents.

 

 

 

Thanks for everyone putting another nail in this forum's coffin by telling a curious member to google stuff.

You're really doing god's work here. :wine:


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#7 Offline Virginian_ants - Posted June 15 2023 - 4:56 PM

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Thanks that let's me fall asleep a lot easier.

#8 Offline antsriondel - Posted June 15 2023 - 7:50 PM

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Thanks for everyone putting another nail in this forum's coffin by telling a curious member to google stuff.

You're really doing god's work here. :wine:

 

 

 

I learned everything I know in ant keeping from googling it or watching videos. 

 

 

Just look it up on Google.

Not all of them Google can answer.

 

That is fair. 



#9 Offline antsriondel - Posted June 15 2023 - 7:59 PM

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What are gyne's?
And what are macrogynes and microgynes?
How is it that mystrium are mostly in Madagascar but there are some in South East Asia?
What caused the birth of test tube setups?
Who first kept ants?
Where in the world did ants originate?
I might add more and I will understand if some can't be answered.

Gyne is just another word for queen.

 

Myrmica rubra ants have 2 different types of queens, big ones (Macrogynes) and small ones (Microgynes). These are actually different genetic lines and the microgynes are likely an emerging parasitic species that hasn't yet completely separated from their host species they evolved from.

 

No idea, but probably they were all over the place and the populations in between the two locations simply died out. It's also possible they were introduced to one place by humans traveling across the oceans.

 

Test tube setups are a very cheap, low maintenance and easy-to-handle nest substitute that also offers superb vision at the ants living inside. It is most likely some scientists came up with it (i do know for a fact E. O. Wilson kept weaver ants in some sort of "test tube tree") as they are always trying to find cheap and low maintenance ways to handle animals they're studying, and test tubes are abundant scientific standard equipment.

 

No idea, but certainly some scientist to study them, probably in the late 1800s or the early 1900s.
 

Ants evolved from wasps in the early to mid Jurassic (the time when the really large Sauropods appeared) and must have spread extremely quickly across almost the entire world. By the late cretaceuos period most of the subfamilies we know today were established.

As for most smaller animals that rarely leave fossil materials it is impossible to tell where exactly they first appeared - and even if we knew it wouldn't be of much use for the average person as the world back then looked very different from our world today. At the time the ants appeared the world was made up of two large connected supercontinents.

 

 

 

Thanks for everyone putting another nail in this forum's coffin by telling a curious member to google stuff.

You're really doing god's work here. :wine:

 

I am sorry for that. I see how it would have more helpful if I provided some more useful information.  (n)  I hope to prove to be kind to newcomers and if this effected anyone negatively I apologize. I am thankful for this forum and its members.


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#10 Offline ANTdrew - Posted June 16 2023 - 2:00 AM

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Thanks for everyone putting another nail in this forum's coffin by telling a curious member to google stuff.
You're really doing god's work here. :wine:



I learned everything I know in ant keeping from googling it or watching videos.

Just look it up on Google.

Not all of them Google can answer.
That is fair.
Read some books, please.
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#11 Online Ernteameise - Posted June 16 2023 - 2:26 AM

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What are gyne's?
And what are macrogynes and microgynes?
How is it that mystrium are mostly in Madagascar but there are some in South East Asia?
What caused the birth of test tube setups?
Who first kept ants?
Where in the world did ants originate?
I might add more and I will understand if some can't be answered.

I really recommend the book "Ants a visual guide" to you- this book will answer most of your questions, it is full of amazing information to the most amazing ant genera and it has sooooo many great pictures. You can even get the digital ebook version.


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#12 Offline Virginian_ants - Posted June 16 2023 - 5:08 AM

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Thanks to everyone who helped. I try to Google most my ant questions but these ones I couldn't find a solid or non confusing answer.
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#13 Offline antsriondel - Posted June 16 2023 - 8:10 AM

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Thanks for everyone putting another nail in this forum's coffin by telling a curious member to google stuff.
You're really doing god's work here. :wine:



I learned everything I know in ant keeping from googling it or watching videos.

 

Just look it up on Google.

Not all of them Google can answer.
That is fair.
Read some books, please.

 

What books do you recommend? The only book that I found interesting is E.O Wilsons The Ants, But I do not have that kind of money.



#14 Online Ernteameise - Posted June 16 2023 - 8:33 AM

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What books do you recommend? The only book that I found interesting is E.O Wilsons The Ants, But I do not have that kind of money.

 

For some great books, see my post above. I gave a list.

 

By the way, I just saw that "The Ants" is now out on Kindle for just 17 Euro (the hardcover is 150 Euro). So as an ebook, this is an absolute and definite STEAL.



#15 Offline antsriondel - Posted June 16 2023 - 11:33 AM

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What books do you recommend? The only book that I found interesting is E.O Wilsons The Ants, But I do not have that kind of money.

 

For some great books, see my post above. I gave a list.

 

By the way, I just saw that "The Ants" is now out on Kindle for just 17 Euro (the hardcover is 150 Euro). So as an ebook, this is an absolute and definite STEAL.

 

Do you have a link?



#16 Online Ernteameise - Posted June 16 2023 - 12:17 PM

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What books do you recommend? The only book that I found interesting is E.O Wilsons The Ants, But I do not have that kind of money.

 

For some great books, see my post above. I gave a list.

 

By the way, I just saw that "The Ants" is now out on Kindle for just 17 Euro (the hardcover is 150 Euro). So as an ebook, this is an absolute and definite STEAL.

 

Do you have a link?

I bought it on German Amazon for my Amazon Kindle.

Not sure what prices are on Canadian Amazon? Just have a look.

 

EDIT:

Here, Canadian Amazon

https://www.amazon.c...86946663&sr=8-1


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